Better Sounding Systems, Objectivists or Subjectivists?

Why not use every tool you have. If a measurement is off it doesn't guarantee there's a bad result but it points to something to check. In the end the final decision is subjective. It's the only way to put all the data one has into one decision.

But perhaps most important is to understand yourself. There are factors that must be there for satisfaction. You need to learn what they are or without them you'll never be satisfied. There are factors that are intolerable. You also need to know and recognize what they are or even a system that sounds good at first will ultimately not satisfy. I suspect you can miss a plus or two. But one bothersome factor and the system is a goner.

Audiophile use every piece of data available, both objective and subjective. But most important - audiophile know thyself. and that may be the hardest but most important factor of all.

you going to have great measurements and crappy sound so I never trust measurements I always trust my ears

Numbers can lie.

They precisely tell you a part of the story.

They're useful but become a trap for some people.

You can develop the ability to better than numbers.

You know an artist, a master...or just really good.

@mikelavigne

Try replacing the words "they" with "she/her", and "objectivist" with "women/woman", and recite your post to a friend who is a female.

You might receive anything ranging from laughter to a smack.

Generalities are perhaps something I have learnt to cringe at from a young age listening to a guy on a pulpit.

edit - I could have picked any number of posts by others (possibly including my own?), so please don't regard this as personal.

I like @mapman too....omni fans are hard to find, off enjoying the things. *L*

Objective is measured in plots and purpose, both good to have but only the point to make or jump from towards.

Subjectivity is what we experience and respond to; sometimes well, not hard to keep when discussing the same.  It's hard to translate moments into meanings that can only hint at the subject....

My stuff ain't SOTA, but I don't let that stop me.

Nor I towards all y'all.*S*

@noske, yeah I learned that cringe from the Women in Black.  Well-intentioned, no doubt.....like most things that revolve on being blind....

Harsh, perhaps...much like the candy-coated thing called 'history', lived through.

'Bots don't hurt...much...yet