SET Shootout China VS The USA


2A3 SET from china arrives any day now.

The tech who loaned me his UX250 (aka 50 Tube) amp, with a  12AU7 in front + a  6BH7 (??) , has incredible pure Cobalt out trans. ($1k+ each back in 2000, now no longer in production). . he will help me set up the  2A3. 

Has a  AX+AU my 2 fav front tubes anda   quad of 2A3's. 

My speakers are pure neutrality, no coloration, no distortion,. 

So whatever amp/ source you plug in, will register the nuances inherent in the circuit.

Will be very interesting. 

USA has pure cobalt out trans which gives the edge in power, but the china 2A3 has a 2 tubes per channel.

Gonna be interesting and will post a  YT upload with comments,

AFTER TESTING IS COMPLETEED.

Hand on to your horses at the OK Corral. 

Grab a  beer at the saloon, 

sundown shootout at the edge of town. 

 

mozartfan

Hey Larry, I'll run by, your ideas over with my tech, see whats going on.

OK Acresverde mentioned a  FR system w/o woofer may not appeal to other audiophiles whose music requires a  deeper bass response.

WEll with a  PP type  SET, maybe this will azllow adding a  woofer in the system. But not sure if the added ohm will  be too much on the 2A3's.

I was running dual 8 ohms FR + 8 ohm tweeter,,and 1 of the UX250's went dark, and  is new stock. 

Have to get  with my tech who built the amp, perhaps its not the ohm over load, maybe something other.

But this is what I have to consider here.

can a  2A3 tube handle dual FR + dual tweeters..is this asking too much.

Although the  center trans on the UX250 was not running hot with 3 8 ohm drivers,, maybe the tube was being over loaded.

So its possible  my dual FR speaker may not work with a  SET,,or perhaps this 2 tubes per channel, PP design allows for more ohm load.

hard to say at this point.

My tech even mentioned **yeah go ahead and put a  single W18 mid along with the system..**,, Saying it can handle the ohm load.

All this has to be  worked out. Good thing in this testing is that if a  stock tube goes dark, no big loss. 

I will run the stock tubes for 6 months witha  dual FR, dual tweter, thats 8 phms x4,, and see how the tubes hold up, /heat on center trans.

BEFORE I order Psvane ACME 2A3's which I would not wish to risk early burn out at 600/pair.

If there is trouble, we can try a  single FR/tweeter and use this  amp as for light chamber.

More complex big orchestra like Schnittke symphonies, we can run the Defy  which can easily handle a  bunch of drivers. 

Back to the idea that 2 tubes per channel offers a  better sound vs the Defy's 6. With 6 tubes, you have a  beefier  trans , opening up the path for dual FR + dual tweeters and a  woofer for techno , heavy metal, grunge and any other slam driver music you  care to hear.

So sems  there is a  place for PP power. 

All these things have to be tested and worked out.

Stay tuned.....

Side note the Defy has 2 ohms on top of trans, but somewhere I read , the amp needs to be adjusted to bring it to 2 ohms. 

My tech does not want to make any mods in this circuit.

Again, what may happen  with dual FR + dual tweeters is over load not so much on the center trans, but  may affect/shorten the life of the 12 KT88's, which is not a  good thing, 12 tubes runs me $600. 

Stay tuned.....

Mozart fan what kind of a crap system is that. LOL hahaha well I imagine if the speakers had the name like Wilson Dali Sonus Faber attacjed to the front ,, maybe you and others would buy it hey thats what i am going to do, start up my own speaker retail shop. Lets see what shall I call it oh I know The Frankenstein's. Look if Tekton's are selling their loaded cabinets,, like hot cakes in a alaskan mining town...I think mine are better,,. A bunch of tweeters will not match dual FR;'s in these sma e band width. Trsut me my Frankenstein's are ONLY limited by the amp connected. Whatever sound is in the amp will be channled through the speakers. UNlike xover /low sens speakers which block/distort/pollute the nunances of a Jadis KT170's glorious sound. My dual FR have NO XOVER, just pure muisc from the source + amplifier. I live minutes from the airport, stop by one day. Then make a critique, or insulting comment. Not til you actually heard them live.

"No one in the world, AFAIK, has a dual FR system + tweeter..."

Gee, I wonder why🙄

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Then make a critique, or insulting comment. Not til you actually heard them live.

Hearing something live has never stopped you from critiquing other speakers such as Vandersteen, Wilson, Dali, Zu, Tekton, etal. In fact, you have made that pronouncement over and over and over. The same thing is good for you too. Besides, you continuously remind everyone that your videos capture the sound in your room. It is fair game. And as many have said, your system does not come close to sounding good in your videos.