Up & Over sampling Is one superior to the other?

Steve, looking at your subjective ranking for the MSB Gold Link w/Power Base in regards to both upsampling selection and also sound in general, you might be interested to check out my archived thread.

Blindjim, I would suggest you take a look at my thread entitled: Reference DACS: An over all perspective, it contains tons of information on non/up/over sampling, solid state/tube DACS on the market today.

The discussion revolves around to distinct types of "flavors" in world class DACS that are described as Type 1 ot Type 11.

There is no one "superior" approach to the D/A conversion process, but personnal taste and system synergy really make the difference. Look at the thread for fine details in the sonic differences.

thanks guys. My rig was deeply into the warm region once. Now it's near neutrality with a warm cast though still. but no longer resembling 'dark' IMO. i'VE ANOTHER pc ON THE WAY WHICH i'M PRETTY SURE WILL BRING ME EVEN CLOSER TO THE NEUTRAL DEAL. YECCH... BUT i BELIEVE IT TO BE a good move for supplying my amps power reqs.

So any DAC at this point needs be a pretty good performer interms of it's presentation, and of course, way musical. Nothing near strtlingly resolute or overly detailed, especially in the upper mids and above. Something akin to the best Sony Cd players resolution and detail... yet with greater body for imaging and the ability to reduce the jitter bugs... so I don't have to reclock the Sony xa777. hate to mod if I don't have to, and I think a good DAC should accomplish that for me as well as handle the mass fi items (Carosels cable boxes), and the PC.

the PS Audio Ultra Link III really interests me but I can't find anything written on it anywhere... which might say something after all... huh?

I don't want a DAC that will reduce my CD/music collection to only those excellently recorded. taht would wbe a poor choice IMO.

OVERSAMPLING seems the less likely path for me as it appears the more over the top resolution method.

I will read the links, anyother notions based upon experience with both technologies would be well appreciated.

thanks teajay... I think I need a type V or VI, if type I & II run as much as those in the thread run. Oh. My. God. Probably need to simply buy more lotteery tickets.. or pray and likely both.

but I'm (if I've a choice and I do), a type II guy. the astounding expense of those pieces is well beyond me. their sound I think, is not. Well, I don't think so anyway. love to have any of them though. In my world however, they are no option. I do see synergy is the ticket compleetly. I also get the impression from those posts of the different items that it's how the makers go about implementing a certain technology too. Parts and so forth... and I sort of got that down already. My biggest issue is the playground I frequent. finding a rose in the pasture is a bit tuff... it's mostly mushrooms. Mushrooms can be nice too... if one is into that sort of thing.

I try to live somewhere around that point of diminishing returns. All of those type I & II are well into, and beyond that threshold.

unless someone adopts me, (and I'm really esy to get along with and just way charming), or dies and gbequeaths to me such a piece, my lot is near cast to remain in the more pedestrian markets. I say pedestrian, yet I'm still walking about where I really shouldn't, all things being considered. merely my passion has me taking larger strides most often.

If a grand, new or used (give or take a bit), can't do a good job, I'll really be frustrated. More.

Blindjim - In the past I would not necessarily recommend upsamplers in hardware, but the new 24/192 chip I mentioned is quite excellent. It is used in the Northstar 192 and the new BelCanto DAC3 as well as the Dodson 218. Great sounding upsampler.

Steve N.