China built tube amps


Well I had an interesting conversation today. I contacted a large dealer and let him know I would like to buy a certain integrated tube amplifier that is made in China. I was told he wouldn't sell me one. He said they are all junk.  Prima Luna, Line Magnetic, Cayin, etc, etc, he said forget it. If you want a tube amplifier buy an American or European built unit that can be serviced.

So, I am new to valve amplifiers and I want to try one to understand what they're all about and sort of get my feet wet with tube rolling etc. I don't want to spend a lot of money at first which is why I was looking at Chinese built integrateds. So my question is, without getting into any particular brand other than what I have already mentioned, what is your experience with Chinese built tube amps? As a whole are they reliable? Am I wasting my money if I buy one according to this dealer? I have to admit I was rather taken aback by how adamant he was. Thoughts anyone?

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Huge progress has made with China products, but I usually choose USA products. Why ?

Look at the products I used:

Audio Research VT100 MKiii, Working at good condition

Audio Research LS25 MK i working at good condition

Audio Research LS25 MKii working like new

Audio Research Classic 120 beautiful soundstage

Audio Research DAC 7 ,silent contribution to my music system

Audio Reearch CD3,I left it in China,I can recall the sound is beautiful

Those are all old machines, and when I check the RCA socket of LS25 MKii , It get vivid color.

How does that be? HIGH quality!

Any amplifiers, or DAC or CD, no matter where was made, give it 20 years and you tell us it is good quality.

DO NOT MAKE YOUR JUDGEMENT SO SOON.

 

I do not memtion my Audio Research REF 75SE,as it is not old enough.

All in one, despite the high quality, I get my RIGHT soundstage.

This is the key points for your music system.

You can not purchase only depend on the good sound, You got think it is the RIGHT sound when you put your order on.

That's just my 2 cents.

 

 

What is difference of good soundstage and RIGHT soundstage for yourself?

It is all your personal judgement.

For me,a good example is Pass labs vs Audio Research

I demo listen pass XP10+X250, the sound is good, beautiful, but it is not my cup of tea. Some one else will love it, but not me.

When I listen audio research, I feel I can not listen without them, I love it, It is the right soundstage for me.

 

 

 

when I check the RCA socket of LS25 MKii , It get vivid color.

I’ve heard of amplifiers conveying emotion, but AR appear to have taken it to a whole new level..

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I would pose the question in a different way:
Are the sub $100 tube amps on Amz/Eb any good? I know that wont be as good as any Audio research  or McIntosh..
But for the sake of connecting a DVD player, are they 50%, 60%, 70% good?