Wadia 581i using as a pre any good



I am in the market for a new player and this unit has peaked my interest mainly because being able to remove a pre-amp out of my set-up. This is a second system so I only have two sources, the actual cd source and a McIntosh 300 Music Server that I make use of for back ground music which could be connected into the Wadia via digital. This would be a very simple set-up but my concern is what am I going to loose in sound quality over all doing this. I have experimented in the past with other units and have always gone back to using a good pre. usually tube.

I am after the best sound possible over all, stage, dynamics,vocals, holographic presence and I can go on.

What I seem to mainly loose when not using a good pre is that feeling of a actual holographic presence with body and flesh tone which just involves me.

Presently in this set-up is a ARC Ref3 pre, ARC cd3 MK2, McIntosh 300, McIntosh 501 mono blocks, Eggleston Andra 2 speakers, cable Virtual Dynamics balanced.

I do have coming a Supratek Sauvigon line stage which I have been told is suppose to be better than the ARC Ref3 pre.in many ways, I will find out for myself if it's all hype or an actual fact.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
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Why don't you see if you can audition a North American Products P12R H-Cat preamp and you will see what realism is all about. Check their website at www.H-Cat.com. Believe me friend, it is unbelievably real sounding. You have been dropping big bucks in your system. Find an H-Cat dealer and try to audition one. You won't be sorry you did.

Hi Soundlock if you go to my "Answers" you will see my threads. I did inquire about this pre but have now given up and moved forward. If you review my threads in the answered section you will see why. To date no one has contacted me nor have they answered my questions, even Roger himself did not answer my questions back in the thread so I have moved forward. The supposive dealer close to me I believe is a fictitious one.

Thanks anyways
I have a Wadia 861xi. My experience is the same as yours: it looses coherence without a very good pre to match it with the rest of the system.
Dev, why don't you get off your butt and go hear one? There is no reason for Roger to answer your ill-conceived questions.