Hello Fellow Music Lovers,
I came upon this thread a few months ago and have just re-read it. I have been in the process of upgrading my system so there was no point in commenting until major parts of my new system were in place, including a "cousin" of one of the CD players used in the shoot-out. IMHO the shoot-out was highly flawed. I am not saying that the APL was not the best of the lot -- and possibly by far. But there are so many variables that were not seriously considered in this shoot-out that it must be taken for what it is worth -- which is to say advisedly, IMHO.
Firstly, the set-up should have been stated at the very beginning -- all of the equipment, wiring, plugs and room treatments used. Secondly, there are so many variables that were not even mentioned or considered. I find this astonishing. It is as though you just plug 5 CD players into the same system, listen to a couple of CDs for a few hours and out comes your undisputed winner. Well, I don't see things in such a simplistic way. Everyone knows that personal preference can make a very big difference. Wiring and plugs can make a very big difference. The quality of recordings can also make a very big difference. In today's CD world there are remasters and there are remasters. For instance. I have a copy of the latest Beatles remasters that is supposed to be the very best ever produced. But it is not the very best. It is clearly surpassed by the Japanese Parlophone box set remasters. Then there is the all-important factor of synergy. Components that work well with one CD player can may sound awful with another CD player. And since when can the PS Audio Multiwave II+ be seriously considered to be a credible part of a high end CD player shoot-out? What if the Synergistic Research PowerCell 10SE had replaced it. What would the various CD players have sounded like? And what if different speakers had been used? Then there is the choice of music -- 2 well-recorded classical CDs. This cannot seriously be taken as a measure by which to judge the various attributes of a variety of high quality CD players. Also, the word "consensus" has been used to crown the APL as the undisputed winner. There was no "consensus". There was a 7 to 3 vote in favor of the APL -- a wide margin of preference. But what factors led 3 participants to prefer the EMM over the APL? If a different mix of amplifier, speakers, power conditioner, wires, plugs room conditioning and recordings had been used might the vote have been different? I believe these are interesting questions to consider. A real shoot-out should be a far more serious affair, IMHO.
I came upon this thread a few months ago and have just re-read it. I have been in the process of upgrading my system so there was no point in commenting until major parts of my new system were in place, including a "cousin" of one of the CD players used in the shoot-out. IMHO the shoot-out was highly flawed. I am not saying that the APL was not the best of the lot -- and possibly by far. But there are so many variables that were not seriously considered in this shoot-out that it must be taken for what it is worth -- which is to say advisedly, IMHO.
Firstly, the set-up should have been stated at the very beginning -- all of the equipment, wiring, plugs and room treatments used. Secondly, there are so many variables that were not even mentioned or considered. I find this astonishing. It is as though you just plug 5 CD players into the same system, listen to a couple of CDs for a few hours and out comes your undisputed winner. Well, I don't see things in such a simplistic way. Everyone knows that personal preference can make a very big difference. Wiring and plugs can make a very big difference. The quality of recordings can also make a very big difference. In today's CD world there are remasters and there are remasters. For instance. I have a copy of the latest Beatles remasters that is supposed to be the very best ever produced. But it is not the very best. It is clearly surpassed by the Japanese Parlophone box set remasters. Then there is the all-important factor of synergy. Components that work well with one CD player can may sound awful with another CD player. And since when can the PS Audio Multiwave II+ be seriously considered to be a credible part of a high end CD player shoot-out? What if the Synergistic Research PowerCell 10SE had replaced it. What would the various CD players have sounded like? And what if different speakers had been used? Then there is the choice of music -- 2 well-recorded classical CDs. This cannot seriously be taken as a measure by which to judge the various attributes of a variety of high quality CD players. Also, the word "consensus" has been used to crown the APL as the undisputed winner. There was no "consensus". There was a 7 to 3 vote in favor of the APL -- a wide margin of preference. But what factors led 3 participants to prefer the EMM over the APL? If a different mix of amplifier, speakers, power conditioner, wires, plugs room conditioning and recordings had been used might the vote have been different? I believe these are interesting questions to consider. A real shoot-out should be a far more serious affair, IMHO.