Blind Shoot-out in San Diego -- 5 CD Players


On Saturday, February 24, a few members of the San Diego, Los Angeles and Palm Springs audio communities conducted a blind shoot-out at the home of one of the members of the San Diego Music and Audio Guild. The five CD Players selected for evaluation were: 1) a Resolution Audio Opus 21 (modified by Great Northern Sound), 2) the dcs standalone player, 3) a Meridian 808 Signature, 4) a EMM Labs Signature configuration (CDSD/DCC2 combo), and 5) an APL NWO 2.5T (the 2.5T is a 2.5 featuring a redesigned tube output stage and other improvements).

The ground rules for the shoot-out specified that two randomly draw players would be compared head-to-head, and the winner would then be compared against the next randomly drawn player, until only one unit survived (the so-called King-of-the-Hill method). One of our most knowledgeable members would set up each of the two competing pairs behind a curtain, adjust for volume, etc. and would not participate in the voting. Alex Peychev was the only manufacturer present, and he agreed to express no opinion until the completion of the formal process, and he also did not participate in the voting. The five of us who did the voting did so by an immediate and simultaneous show of hands after each pairing after each selection. Two pieces of well-recorded classical music on Red Book CDs were chosen because they offered a range of instrumental and vocal sonic charactistics. And since each participant voted for each piece separately, there was a total of 10 votes up for grabs at each head-to-head audition. Finally, although we all took informal notes, there was no attempt at detailed analysis recorded -- just the raw vote tally.

And now for the results:

In pairing number 1, the dcs won handily over the modified Opus 21, 9 votes to 1.

In pairing number 2, the dcs again came out on top, this time against the Meridian 808, 9 votes to 1.

In pairing number 3, the Meitner Signature was preferred over the dcs, by a closer but consistent margin (we repeated some of the head-to-head tests at the requests of the participants). The vote was 6 to 4.

Finally, in pairing number 5, the APL 2.5T bested the Meitner, 7 votes to 3.

In the interest of configuration consistance, all these auditions involved the use of a power regenerator supplying power to each of the players and involved going through a pre-amp.

This concluded the blind portion of the shoot-out. All expressed the view that the comparisons had been fairly conducted, and that even though one of the comparisons was close, the rankings overall represented a true consensus of the group's feelings.

Thereafter, without the use blind listening, we tried certain variations at the request of various of the particiapans. These involved the Meitner and the APL units exclusively, and may be summarized as follows:

First, when the APL 2.5T was removed from the power regenerator and plugged into the wall, its performance improved significantly. (Alex attributed this to the fact that the 2.5T features a linear power supply). When the Meitner unit(which utilizes a switching power supply) was plugged into the wall, its sonics deteriorated, and so it was restored to the power regenerator.

Second, when we auditioned a limited number of SACDs, the performance on both units was even better, but the improvement on the APL was unanimously felt to be dramatic.
The group concluded we had just experienced "an SACD blowout".

The above concludes the agreed-to results on the blind shoot-out. What follows is an overview of my own personal assessment of the qualitative differences I observed in the top three performers.

First of all the dcs and the Meitner are both clearly state of the art players. That the dcs scored as well as it did in its standalone implementation is in my opinion very significant. And for those of us who have auditioned prior implementations of the Meitner in previous shoot-outs, this unit is truly at the top of its game, and although it was close, had the edge on the dcs. Both the dcs and the Meitner showed all the traits one would expect on a Class A player -- excellent tonality, imaging, soundstaging, bass extension, transparency, resolution, delineation, etc.

But from my point of view, the APL 2.5T had all of the above, plus two deminsions that I feel make it truly unique. First of all, the life-like quality of the tonality across the spectrum was spot-on on all forms of instruments and voice. An second, and more difficult to describe, I had the uncany feeling that I was in the presence of real music -- lots or "air", spatial cues, etc. that simply add up to a sense of realism that I have never experienced before. When I closed my eyes, I truly felt that I was in the room with live music. What can I say.

Obviously, I invite others of the participants to express their views on-line.

Pete

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Guidocorona, let me spell it out to YOU. I'm on to your game with APL and other posters in this thread. With a little help from my friends I traced all of you back in earlier threads to see how you operate. A nice little team of audio thugs you are. You don't like my "overvigorous posting"? Too bad for you. Who says you have to like everything you read here? If you don't like it go amuse yourself elsewhere. You don't own this thread. This thread belongs to everyone -- not to the thought police. Take your attempt at verbal intimidation somewhere else. I don't drink Kool-Aid -- so buzz off.

Tvad, who would want to vocalize their support for me here and get involved with the audio mafia? Those in the know are backing off, of course. I'm new to Audiogon but I am not new to this sort of thing. I'm glad I found out about all of you. Alex and the rest the gang can try to pull the wool over the eyes of those who have not caught on yet. Hasta la vista.
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"I'm on to your game with APL and other posters in this thread. With a little help from my friends I traced all
of you back in earlier threads ..."

Oh wow.... Yes, you and your imaginary friends have finally rooted our darkling digital conspiracy out.... Time to confess... Alex, I, and all our cryptocohorts are all agents of Philip Jose farmer's Ethicals out of The Dark Design, with a little help from black helicopters and a sprinkling of some good Trilaterals of old.

Our secret goal is to coopting Mr. Tennis into consuming vast amount of overspiced industrial pizzas, and to become the ultimate seeker of the ultra-detailed in 60 seconds triple-blind digital shootouts.

But do not tell MRT and TVAD... They are still under the pius delusion that I am a harmless if somewhat eccentric Esoteric, Roland, and vienna fan, and not a powerful mafioso Don, and prime co-conspirator of the last of the great Bogomil audio-maguses from the wilding Bulgarian Carpatians.

Saluti e buone cose, G.
My last posting in reply to Guido was excised by the powers that be -- a hot potato -- so let's try this reply to Tvad. Yes Tvad, I am very thorough which is one of the things that has been sidestepped here -- until your comment. And I am not afraid in the least of the attacks against me that are allowed to appear on this thread. If the message is too thorough and to the point it may burn too hot and be deemed unacceptable here. So poster/minions sidestep the issues being presented, label the poster "overly fervent" or another dismissive epithet, and invite the poster to leave at which time the messenger becomes fair play for any and all verbal assaults -- jeered at, sneered at, laughed at, florid-prosed at -- anything to chase the swine away.

These are the tactics used to rid the thread -- and not only this thread -- of "the unwanted posters", those who refuse to play the game. Since some of my postings are "officially unacceptable" here I am saving them and emailing them to those who PM me. Postings can be excluded from threads but the truth can never be hidden. Any attempt to do so will be in vain and will reflect badly on Audiogon in whose best interest it is to allow all posters to post. I have been receiving a lot of PMs about this. If inane postings, disrespectful postings and mocking postings are acceptable why are all thorough, clear and well-written postings not acceptable as well? I believe this is a very good question.
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