Inexpensive speaker cables: any experience?


I’m currently running some entry Kimber Kable speaker cables and looking at possibly upgrading. In my research I’ve come across some “budget” options on eBay. I assume they’re not great but curious if anyone has any experience with some “no-name” or “budget” cables? 
 

Thoughts on these? 

Thanks!

paulgardner

@rooze that last link you posted talks about the main measurable parameters having the most pronounced effect.

Conclusion #1 – A cable’s electrical properties can be measured. In doing so we find there are a number of significant differences between different cables designed to do the same job. These measurable differences in the electrical properties of cables can be correlated directly to the differences we hear in the sonic profiles of cables. [more later]

Therefore measurable differences in the electrical properties of audio cables can and do affect how the music sounds and in a predictable way.

We go right from conclusion #1, to finding that most “magical cables” do not come with specifications on their main electrical parameters.

They are mostly sold as “Just listen to them”.

If we were to know that some specific capacitance and inductance helps a specific system, then it gets easier to move from that cable to a “slightly” different sound, in predicable ways.

Currently it is more like a Pentecostal revival, where one reaches into a bag of snakes, and prays like hell that the outcome is not going to go too badly.
(Pulling out the snake shaped cable that hopefully tames their system… and if it is directional, then they have hopefully grabbed it near the arrow behind the head.)

 

If we knew the basic specs, then things like skin effect and dielectric biasing can be considered when we know that cable A and cable B are largely similar.

These CHeLA cables are not cheap, and they remind me of a Kimber 4TC or 8TC. And they have low inductance.

https://www.vhaudio.com/speakercables.html

Has anyone used these in a DIY setup?
Maybe I’ll order them or just try the Kimber 8TC…

 

Historically I usually have been more prone to using monoblocks so as to keep the cables short in length.

Im using chris's quad 12 and i have been really happy with all his wire.The chela are something i id like to try as well.Chris products have never let me down.

rooze, yes, Paul Speltz right down the road from me in Lake Elmo. Well, when I lived in MN. I have not tried his stuff yet.

Yeah, I'm a cable guy and been at it for 41 years and counting (since I was 17). True, system dependent and more money does not always buy better performance. However, I've owned KS3033, KS3035 & the KS6063 for 5.5 years and sold those for what I paid for them. I got a great/deal/right place at the right time with my guy at the Cableco.....so, very familiar with the usedcable.com., too. 

I went to Silversmith Fideliums back in Nov 2020. However, I missed some of what my KS6063 does, I sold. So, I created my solid core Neotech with stranded Duelund/12 awg tin covered copper. I really like the results over the past 3 months now. Of course, I listened to the Duelund's separate and the Solid core separate then put together to create my KS6063 DIY.

Now, I'm going to try the solid core Neo' with the Fideliums. I run: Illuminations D-60/Kimber, Snake River Audio Boomslang & HFC Reveal for SP/Diffs. IC's: Kimber KS1030 or Snake River Audio Cottonmouth Gold. I'm a redbook guy/1100+ Cd's.

Decware Zen Mystery Amplifier (ZMA)/class A, to my modified Acoustic Zen Adagio's/single capped with Mundorf MCap Supremes at 4500. Absolutely stellar at revealing cable nuances. I'm new to this Forum/have over 3K posts at Decware.

@paulgardner - been using Kimber 8TC’s for a while now, and haven’t had the urge to hunt around much. My only cabling superstition is to do the entire loom from one maker (so all my cabling is Kimber, “Ascent” series - one up from their least expensive line)

I figure 50% of audio enthusiasts think the above makes me a foolish wastrel, and the rest think I’ve never heard music, so probably landed in the right place

Let us know if you find something that you like!

Have a great day