Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
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I've already got one potential upgraderšŸ‘šŸ¼

One question here in the forum on the matter..

The person in in contact with at clarity caps said that the 28 uF cap would have to be in 250 VDC, as 27 uF would be their largest in 400 VDC, whereas the 14 uF could be made in 630 VDC (I don't know if the caps Rob has are also 630 for the 14 and 250 for the 28 uF cap?).

Would it be a problem, sonically, to put a 250 VDC cap in the system?

Pieter

Pieter - Higher voltage acts more like film-foil and sounds better. But the upper frequencies have far less power than bass, so difference is negligible. Also the 28uF is in the final station where voltage has been previously shunted to ground. Al in - take what you can get.

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@pieper1973
The 250 V is not a ā€œproblemā€. The OEM caps are only 100 V. But as @tomthiel explained, the higher voltage caps have thicker film which is desirable. So, a 250 V PUR would almost certainly sound way better than the OEM 100 V Solens or CYCs. But even better performance is possible with 400 V and 630 V versions. I heard an improvement with 250 V over 160 V CSAs on the woofer boards, and those are shunts, not direct feeds. It wasnā€™t a huge difference, and I told Tom I could understand a manufacturer going with the 160 V to meet a price point, but I was willing to pay for the improvement.

In my communications with Rob Gillum, he seemed lukewarm around my upgrade project. I suspect his stock is limited to SA at 630 V (I might be wrong!). One clue is that Thiel only built ~200 out of a planned 300 pairs of CS2.4 SE. Those SAs will certainly improve the sonics of the original CS2.4, even more so if you have boards sourced from FST with the CYC polyester caps. But a DIYer can do even better in 2022.

tomthiel,

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Excuse me if this has been asked as there are too many post in this discussion to read everyone.Ā 

Regarding the CS2.7 are there any cap upgrades? If so what values?