Cartridge Loading for a phono pre amp

@holmz : " He never posted that loading to hard a cartridge will cause stiffness to the cartridge cantilever enough to mistracking. "

It was I that wondered whether the loading affects the compliance in theory

I was who posted that only to clarify that J.Carr never support those false statements by atmasphere. Tha’s all.

" to which answered " with false statements. Good for you if that is what you was looking for.

It was not about mis tracking tests, it was about the motor affecting the stiffness in theory, whether or not it had impact on the sound was not my primary focus,

I paste all those information coming for true experts for we audiophiles can learn and don’t believe in what " some one " is spreading every where with out facts.

 

Unfortunatelly we are part of these corrupted AHEE. Such is life but people have the rigth to learn out of that AHEE.

what is AHEE?

Btw, who is: whistleraudio that you show in your last post.

a spell check on Raul I think.

Anyway in your last statement seems to me that in some way we are in agreement on that issue. Good.

R.

Maybe in agreement in that it doesn’t matter.

But maybe not in agreement as to whether the load being high or low would affect the compliance and which way it would do so if it did.

Raul's handwaving aside, I agree 100% with what JCarr has stated, quoted by Raul during his handwaving nonsense above.

Loading does not affect the bandwidth of the cartridge, nor is that something I stated. Raul is employing a strawman argument (a logical fallacy, by definition false) by attempting to put words in my mouth. 

If you ask JCarr directly, he will agree to the fact that loading the cartridge at a lower resistance will stiffen the cartridge cantilever (something quite different from changing bandwidth...). He and I met and spoke about this topic at a Munich audio show 6 years ago; he looked me up at our room, this was after an active thread on cartridge loading on the What's Best forum. 

What I have maintained is that the additional stiffness may decrease the ability of the cartridge to trace high frequencies, not that it would reduce the bandwidth of the cartridge!

If loading had no effect on the cantilever stiffness, then free energy would be the result. At least so far, free energy has not been recognized by the world at large- it remains the stuff of conspiracy theories. It would be quite odd that phono cartridges would somehow be exempt from the laws of physics 😂 Put another way you can safely ignore Raul's rant.

@holmz  : Be straight and tell me what exactly you want to tell me with:

" a spell check on Raul I think. "

R.

Again: " To claim that the loading affects the measurable frequency response of the cartridge is bogus. "

He not named " bandwindht ".

You said: " less able to trace high frequencies. " any cartridge that's " less able " to trace HF change the frequencies where is less able to pick up the grooves information. But the issue is that you can't prove it with true facts/measures.

 You follow with your tale at Munich but in at least 3 different threads in different internet forums where you, JC and I participated about and where you posted your same " tale " he never confirmed that agree in that " less able to track HF ".

With out facts and confirmation for me all that is a lie and false as Wayne proved.

R.

You follow with your tale at Munich but in at least 3 different threads in different internet forums where you, JC and I participated about and where you posted your same " tale " he never confirmed that agree in that " less able to track HF ".

You were not in Munich, plain and simple.

JCarr did not address the topic of high frequency traceability one way or the other. I recommend you set up an LP mastering lathe as I have and you can sort all this out easily enough.

If you are saying that by making the cantilever stiffer that its ability to trace a smaller and smaller waveform in the groove, requiring the stylus to move faster and faster against that increased stiffness, and somehow its ability to move that fast is unaffected, be my guest. But on a very basic level, the idea has no merit.