Every day I see another turntable recommendation...


After digging into this topic, I am convinced now I need to go a bit higher on this first vinyl set up. I think all in, I am prepared at this point to go up to $5k, for the table alone, not including arm or cartridge.

But frankly, being on this forum is like drinking from an information firehose. I have learned a bunch and yet somehow, I am less convicted than before.

With that in mind, to narrow down the decision, I am want to restrict myself to things I can buy, hear and, if necessary, service locally. My local dealers stock, AMG, AVM, Basis, Clearaudio, Michell, Musichall, Pro-ject, Rega, VPI, so I am likely restricted to those brands. I am certain my view will change by the end of this thread.

saulh

One thing I often see with turntable threads is the telling of experiences and negativity in general for the Linn LP12 backed up with memories from decades ago.

The Linn dealer in the 80’s talked about the live nature of the resonance, and how record clamps and heavy platters were, according to him, a destroyer of good sound as they did not let the vinyl vibrate and sing.

(It sounded like a load of BS)

 

I ended up with a Sota and a spindle/record clamp. Mostly after wrapping the nail of my bird finger onto the chassis. Pretty much like holding the finger with the thumbs and letting the finger go in a flick move.

It hurts a bit if one does it as hard as one can.

The absence of sound out of the speakers from the then sore finger, sold the table.

But heavy platters and record weights are still being debated today.

Plus a dealer conversation from the 80’s is still a single opinion from 40 years ago…

I see the same thing with Technics tables: some forum guys will completely dismiss modern DD Technics tables because of their experience with “cheap DJ tables” from when they were in college 40 years ago…

 

But heavy platters and record weights are still being debated today.

Plus a dealer conversation from the 80’s is still a single opinion from 40 years ago…

To be sure!

And the 1700 posts on Naim forum are 1700 single opinions, or the same opinion 1700 times. A higher quantity of propaganda doesn’t flip and suddenly become some critical mass of truth.

And my opinion is also “who cares”. It too, is a story, and not any aspect of truth… other than a finger flicking onto my table is quieter than one flicking a Linn.

But we do not usually flick fingers onto a turntable.
It is just a parlour trick.

 

I see the same thing with Technics tables: some forum guys will completely dismiss modern DD Technics tables because of their experience with “cheap DJ tables” from when they were in college 40 years ago…

Modern Techniques?
(I thought that the old ones were good too.)

 

There is something to said about a workhorse of a TT, and it being built to stand up to abuse. They were not transporting delicate TTs to events and worrying about set up slipping out of alignment.

The Denon’s were also good sounding work horses.
(I am thinking of getting one myself)

I agree with most of your post here. But the Naim forum thread with 1700 posts is not some form of agenda filled propaganda! I suggest you spend time flipping through the many pages of folks proudly showing their LP12 tables. These guys really love their tables! Some are purchased new and some have been constantly evolving for decades.

It should be noted that there is a real competitive rivalry between fans of Naim and Linn. Some of this is friendly and some far less so…