Vandersteen 2ce questions


I have been upgrading my system over the past few months. My newest upgrade is some older Vandy 2Ce speakers(not sigs) replacing my little Jamo E855s. My system is now NAD c370, Musical Fidelity Tri-Vista DAC, and Yamaha dvds-1800 as a transport.I know its nothing special compared to people's systems on Audiogon, but I'm a single parent and my budget is low enough to be almost non-existant. I am wondering if I'm doing something wrong with the Vandys. The lierature that came with them says they go to true 30hz, but they dont have the bass slam that my little jamos do. I've moved them all over the romm(about15x23). Wood floors with nothing on the sides and about 24 inches behind them.I wanna love these as they cost me more than everything else put together. I'm really pleased with the mids and highs, and get ALOT more detail from these than the jamos. I just want more bass and cant really use a sub because I'm in a townhome. Any advice for this newbie?
biffrythm
One of the very things that impressed me about the 2C Vandersteen speakers when I first heard them was the quality of the bass, very natural without the irritating mid bass hump that many speakers in their price range exhibit as noted above. I agree totally with Dan, Zd542 and Rrog and of course Johnny. These gentlemen really understand these speakers. Proper set-up, interaction in the room and the amplifier used go a long way in realizing their potential which is considerable for a full range speaker in their price range. I would address the amp last after all set-up and placement issues are addressed. While the Vandies are not the most efficient design they don't exhibit any wild impedance variations that mandate a high current amp, relatively easy to drive but as is with any quality speaker, benefit from quality amplification and I would agree, they like power. No they don't have the slam of other speakers but what they really get right is natural tuneful bass as you would hear it live. These speakers are better suited towards acoustical jazz and classical and are NOT for headbangers, IMO.

You haven't stated your musical preference Biffrythm. Ultimately they may not be your cup of tea but none the less they are excellent speakers. I owned a pair for 10 years and I always enjoy hearing any of the Vandies that are well set-up.
It seems clear Biffrythm that for some listeners the Vandersteens will not produce the impact/slam/dynamics that they want, regardless of amp or set up, and that for other listeners a well set up pair are sonic heaven. It does seem from the response of the Vandersteen dealer and others, that proper set up may be even more important than usual with these speakers.
I am going to do the proper set up this weekend. My daughters are at their mothers for the weekend. Good news is I am getting low tones now, so set-up seems to be the issue. The bass does seem to be at a lower volume than the rest of the frequency range. Not at all detached, like I've heard in other speakers, but subdued. I'm not a headbanger at all. I'm 46 so even the heavy metal of my youth is classic rock now. I listen to rock, blues, country, and reggae. And I do like these speakers. Best of ever owned. Only issue is bass, and it may simply be that I was used to the mid-bass hump. I love everything else about them and am even getting used to the subdues bass.I like them more every day. I'll do a proper set-up per the manuel and enjoy. Thanks for all the advice, everyone
I own the 2CE sig II and you guys are right, set up and positioning is very critical with the Vandy 2's. 1/2 inch movement (tilt and toe-in) make a huge different. After six months of trial and error, I finally got it to where I think I nailed the sweet spot. When an audiophile friend of mine walked in while I was listening to Diana Krall, he ask me if I had my SUB woofer on, and when I said no, he was blown away. The bass is tight and at some point there's a certain frequency the you don't hear the bass but rather feel it, I assume that freq. is close to 20Hz. So I believe set up and positioning is the key.
UPDATE: After much work measuring my room(little smaller than my estimate) I have mondo BASS. Sounds great and am VERY happy I splurged on these monsters. Thanks again for everyone's help. Damn glad I found this site.