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How do you judge audio components and speakers?

I would say - listening to music you're familiar with, and comparing. We can talk about tight/bloomy bass, midrange clarity, treble extension and things of that nature. We can also be very specific with regards to how a particular track is supposed to sound; based on high-performance gear that we were able to experience - but only if it purports to be accurate without sonic colorations. Therefore, I guess you could say we have a reference point. This part is what I would consider "objective performance." 

Along with this, measurements go hand-in-hand.

On the other side of the coin - subjective performance is how we "want our systems to sound." If the vocals are too bright or sharp, if snares or unpleasant sounding instrumentals ruin an otherwise good song, it's usually because the system is too accurate. So high-end audio is about chasing an ideal that doesn't exist in reality - but in the minds of audiophiles who are seeking a very particular kind of sonic presentation that bodes well with their music library as a whole....giving you just enough detail to keep you interested, while at the same time having a sense of realism, presence, and imaging that makes the speakers dissapear. We are seeking the illusion of a live performance.

 

The above are just my points. Feel free to share what you think. If you think I'm wrong, I don't mind. 

 

Cheers.

 

Jack

 

jackhifiguy
stevewharton
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Whether it's a electronics, cables or accessories, what I'm looking for is value add

I'm in search of new and improved playback content that I have not heard in previous playbacks that enhances the enjoyment of my listening experience

I have a handful of reference material, that changes over time, that I know in great detail

I can typically detect in the first 2 or 3 songs if the needle is being moved in the right direction

If I have to labor over the decision or comparison, the juice is probably not worth the squeeze

For me, keeping it simple instead of analysis paralysis is preferred

That said I've resolved myself to know that this is not a perfect science and thus I'm probably leaving 10-15% of opportunity on the table, and I'm OK with that

But moving the needle in the right direction gets me closer, closer to what is in the ears of the beholder as we have no end state or final destination

One of the great beauties of this hobby, IMO, we're never finished

Enjoy the journey

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thecarpathian
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@mahgister

I never tried to insult you or ridicule you.

Said the guy who insulted and ridiculed mahgister.

jackhifiguy OP
151 posts
 

@thecarpathian

seriously?

have you see his "system?"

looks like it was put together by a bunch of farm animals building a lair of their own with household objects or anything they could find....

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thecarpathian
4,773 posts
 

Annnd there you go again.

Do you make a habit of contradicting yourself, or just on here?

jackhifiguy OP
151 posts
 

Yeah, well it’s ludicrous.

You know that what I’m saying is true. Trying to build a progressive society and make folks who are unique special snowflakes does not improve anything.

@mahgister

I wish you could explain how it all works. But what you’re saying doesn’t make any sense. And besides, a room that cluttered with various objects will act as an obstacle for the propagation of sound waves; hence your different experience after the tweaks.

At best, you are doing a disservice to Sansui, since they are no longer in business. You have a nice system, but there is no need for your tweaks to improve sound quality.

Do you really think your room as equal to an anechoic chamber?

You are probably creating dozens, if not hundreds of unique reflection points. It is impossible for your tweaks to improve sound quality in any meaningful way.

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