How does the VPI Aries II stand up to current mid priced tables?


I've always loved the elegant look of the Aries but never owned one. Well I have scratched that itch and purchased one right here on Agon and it's en route right now. Seems to be pretty stock with the 10.5 arm and a possible motor upgrade, excellent condition. Has this turntable aged well? All thoughts are welcome.

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The Aires has always been an elegant TT. Just for reference I run an original TNT with an acrylic-lead platter and a TNT V bearing with an upgrade that includes a ceramic bearing and sapphire thrust plate. Also a Roadrunner and Eagle, and a flywheel.

I don’t think there was ever an aluminum/lead/Delrin platter. The originals for the TNT and Aires were as I still have, acrylic-lead. IMO acrylic was dropped, not because of SQ reasons, but for reasons of price in the raw goods and in the fabrication. Aluminum is much easier, and less expensive. Of course, that’s not what they say.

If I were in your place I would do three things. I would get the motor, speed control and Roadrunner from SOTA. It’s a set-it-and-forget-it combo with real performance. It beats anything VPI has ever made available. They have promised more, but that turned out to be vaporware. I would get the VPI second pivot for your arm. It will then behave more like a bearing arm. That’s not particularly important to me, but it will then be very easy to control azimuth, perhaps the most important setting on a cartridge, and probably improve bass. Finally, the problem with the all acrylic platter IIRC was said to be that it lacks the weight of other VPI platters. Which is why VPI went to the Superplatter. The weight contributes to the all important speed stability, the flywheel, of the platter. Before giving up on it and looking at other possibilities, I would glue lead sheeting to its underside to the extent that clearance with the TT base allows.

 

The Aries tables are gorgeous. II probably being the best looking of all - congrats! If I had the room, a nice used deal on one would be hard to turn down. Agree with others you should explore the SOTA/Phoenix upgrades. The VPI tables since Aries/HR-X don’t really strike my fancy. But the 3D Reference arm sounds really nice, and could be another good upgrade option for your Aires.

@melm: Actually, the Aries 1 came with the aluminum/lead/Delrin platter I above described. Honest, I’m looking at mine right now! By the way, the TNT-3 and -4 came with the exact same platter (the TNT-1 and -2 came with the same Delrin platter as the Aries Black Knight). You will recognize Delrin by its black colour.

For the Aries 2, VPI switched to the frosted translucent-white Acrylic platter (and inverted bearing), which has fallen out of favour with both VPI fans and Harry Weisfeld himself.

For the TNT-5, VPI switched to the 15 lb. platter some hard-core VPI aficionados prefer above all others: a bottom layer of stainless steel (5/8" thick), topped with a 7/8" thick layer of Delrin. I know that for a fact: I have one installed on my HW-19 MK.3.

Neither of those two platters may be used on the Aries 2, as both had the non-inverted VPI bearing. The Aries 2 requires a platter employing the inverted bearing, like the Classic platter, or the platter that came after that stock in the TNT-5, the "Super Platter". It is comprised of a stainless steel center, with a layer of Delrin top and bottom. And an inverted bearing.


@bdp24 
Well, you have jogged my memory and there was indeed a short-lived 3 part platter initially introduced in the TNT II and no doubt carried over to the Aires.  I do, though, remember the black plastic as acrylic including for the base of my TNT which is entirely of the black acrylic.  At least, the platter was always referred to as acrylic in the reviews and they could only have gotten that from HW.  The acrylic and lead platter was first introduced in the HW-19 as an upgrade to the original aluminum-lead platter.  That platter was very well received for its SQ in TAS.  In any event they stopped using lead shortly after the first Aires IIRC.  Perhaps I misunderstand something you wrote about the TNT V.  The platters in the TNT V used a non-inverted bearing so they could not be used in the Aires 2 if it is set up for inverted.  Or are you saying that the TNT-5 was changed to an inverted?

I believe there was a period during which they used the all acrylic (clear) platter on the TNT V and later offered the stainless-acrylic (black) as an upgrade.

As I wrote, I think they dropped acrylic for its cost and the original bearings for the same reason.