Digital Interconnects - Which one is the BEST ??!!


Hello,

i am not initially wanting to hear a brand name but more a TYPE of connection.

is Optical better than Coaxial ?  Is USB better than BNC ?   What IS BNC anyways?!     I read somewhere that a COAX input that utilizes any old RCA cable is much worse than a dedicated COAX cable - that was news to me!

After i learn these things, i will look for a good brand, but if there is a TYPE that outperforms other TYPEs i want to begin with that...

thank you for your comments

rop45

Audiotroy more or less has it right.

 

USB is best in theory, since it simply delivers bits "in bulk" and lets the DAC sort out timing etc.  Crappy DAC, crappy sound. greta DAC great sound.

All the rest are variants of SPDIF (yes, AES is a variant of SPDIF)

 

SPDIF has issues since in it most common configuration, the SOURCE sets timing.  Your source, especially if it a computer, is unlikely to be all that great. So this is inferior to USB - all the blah, blah blah you will hear aside.

Within SPDIF optical is the worst. It has the advantage of being largely immune to noise, so very good for TVs etc - and guess what That's where its mostly used.  But the most common configuration doesn't even support above 44/16

Withing "COAX" you absolutely NEED a cable designed for digital  Thsi has 2 characteristics:  1) it maintains a good pulse shape, which means frequencies way above audio.  2) it has a 75 ohm characteristic impedance.  Most are yellow by industry convention. Some regular RCAs are so bad they don't even work at all.

Ideally you would use a BNC connector since they can be bought 75 ohm. Al RCAs are 50 ohm. They work. They are on everything. They are sub-ideal.

Note: the small, subtle differences in sound we discuss with analog equipment generally dont apply to digital, except as they affect timing. And with USB timing is meaningless until the DAC reconstructs the signal.

 

Some of yoou are saying"that's BS i hear differences with USB sources". And you may - its mostly ground noise which is a big problem from PCs to DACs and any sources is a PC in disguise.

 

As to "forget USB". Forget that advice.  Apparently a crap DAC or some other issue like ground noise.  Fix it.

@audiotroy

@itsjustme 

Yup …. your posts are  the best responses I’ve read on this oft-repeating query.

 

well, thank you.

 

Just trying to disambiguate.  The problem is separating bad formats from bad implementations - either can create bad sound and then the speculation begins :-)

 

The bottom line is that some learning and work can substitute for a LOT of money.

 

I have to get the ins and outs right since i design similar stuff.

and yes digital cables have different Sonic characters ,how much are you willing to spend is the ?

cable makers love people like this.. they are laughing all the way to the bank

typically audiophool nonsense.. which stated another way is  "the most expensive cables sound the best"

which is nonsense... utter nonsense

 

 

Over the last few years I tried various combinations.

2 sources : Project RS2T CD  and Mac mini going to Devialet 250.

Using :

- USB cable by itself, then with various decrapifiers then with Intona Galvanic Isolator.

- Digital coax

- XLR AES/EBU

- Optical

All high quality cables (200 to 300 euros each used, mostly Kimber and Crystal cables).

Tried with instant switching, and over long periods.

It was mostly hair splitting differences.

Devialet inputs are very good.

Ended up plugging the Mac mini to a Matrix D to D converter (stock $5 USB cable), then Matrix to DAC via XLR. This has given me the most consistently perfect sound out of my Devialet.