Cable Quality vs Customer Service


For me, it's the end of a short era.  I will no longer purchase, or advocate the purchase of Synergistic Research products.  There is no point in the acquisition of fantastic cables if after the sale the customer service lacks so bad that the value of the cable drops to nothing.

So, I would ask...is good cable quality worth bad customer service?

Here's the story, so you understand where I am coming from. I ordered an SR Foundation headphone cable.  It required a stereo mini-pin to source and mono-pin to the headphones.  Seems simple enough. When the cable worked, it sounded fantastic. The problem was that the mono-pins that were used didn't make a solid connection.  When you plug them in, they immediately begin to come out and you lose signal. There is nothing more frustrating than trying to listen to music only to have the audio cut in and out across left and right or altogether. I tested this against other headphone cables both OEM and 3rd party as well as other headphones.  The issue followed the cable. I compared the SR cable to the ones that worked and determined that the problem was the notch on the pin was too thin.  The conductive ball bearing inside the shaft couldn't lock onto the notch in the SR cable and the spring behind it would push the connector out.

So I got an RMA and sent it in to SR for repair.  I even sent two different headphone cables of mine for them to measure against and or to cannibalize if need be. After a week of confirming they had received the cable, I called them to get an update.  They hadn't even looked at it yet and claimed someone would call me the next day.  That day came and went with no call.  I waited a few more days before calling them again for an update.  They still hadn't worked on it but at least looked at the cables and hadn't decided if they should get a new part or use the parts from one of my cables.  They would call and let me know what they had decided.  Days without a call came and went. I called again to get an update.  They said they ordered a new part and I should wait an entire week and someone would call to explain what was happening.  I waited a week and the day they were supposed to call came and went.  I waited a few more days and called for an update and they said it was shipped out already and they couldn't give me a tracking number, but would email it.  I never received an email with the tracking number. 

When I finally got the cable back, it was worse than it was before. They replaced the previous mono-pin with a mono-pin that had a base three times the size of any of the other mono-pins.  So, of course, the connector wouldn't fit into the headphone. It couldn't clear the hole before the main shaft. It was wider than 1/4 of an inch with a 1/4 inch mono-pin sticking out of it. All other mini-pins in existence have a pin, followed by a slightly larger diameter secondary shaft before the much wider base. This was just the mono-pin and the much wider base.  It was missing the extended, smaller diameter shaft. Therefore, the mono-pin lacked the length required to reach the conductor.

So, I called Synergistic Research to ask what could be done.  They said they couldn't help me any further and that I should seek a refund.

Really?  No other options. Not, send in your 3rd party cable so we can use the connector.  Just...forget you, we're done here.  Spending $500 on a cable and they can't 'afford' to help any further? Suddenly, all the thousands of dollars I have spent on Synergistic Research cables and equipment are worthless because there is no integrity behind them.  It's almost as if they're happy to build you a cable and take your money, but don't seek out their help if the product doesn't work as expected. If I charged $500 for a 1 meter cable, I would certainly figure out a way to make it right so that the customer would spend another $500+ on another cable in the future instead of deciding, "we don't need his business."  Maybe they don't, and that's fine.  But I also don't have to be quiet about it.

Peace out.

128x128guakus

@slaw 

I already got the Lavricables O_O

Very interesting. I need to really spend more time with them, but from I can tell so far, they are HYPER revealing. There is a sense that there is reduced bass response, but I think it's because the bass has been tightened all the way up, so the bass isn't flabby.

What I didn't know is that the cables and connectors are cryo treated, and the silver groups are lamented in Teflon and they use Graphene as well.

Oh, and connectors fit and stay connected. :D

Thanks so much for the suggestion.

Hey @guakus 

I let mine run in for 100 hours before critical listening. I think your thoughts about the bass is on the mark. Happy listening! 

Steve

@slaw 

I paid for the 150hr burn in service.  However, the dielectric bias field generated during that session would have decayed by the time of arrival.  So, a good hour or two of listening would reestablish it.

So, I finally got a good, long, listening session in. Wow.  If a sheet of music is turned over, you hear it. If a singer dares to take a breath between notes, you hear it. If they're wearing jewelry and are too close to the mic, you hear it.

The Audioquest Nightowls aren't particularly tuned to high frequency resolution detail, but they are better than the original Nighthawk release. However, with these cables, I think they'd give Senheiser 800s or mid-range Planar cans a run for their money. :) I am very impressed.  They are definitely better than the SRs were for the money.

Now...I am wondering if I shouldn't ask them to make other custom cables for my reference system O_O.

Glad to hear they seem to be working out so far as cables are always a bit of a crapshoot recommendation, but are they maybe a little too detailed or potentially fatiguing (just reading a little between the lines of your initial impressions here)?   How would you say the Lavris differ/compare to the SR?

@soix 

I have finally had a solid few hours plus listening to music and the Lavricables decimate the Synergistic Research cable by leaps and bounds. Not a subtle difference.  The SR cable was clean and clear, which is great....but...the Lavricable pushed that same clarity out with MUCH more force. You could feel those snare drums in your head, and there was more decay/echo on kick drums.  And if you're a fan of classic guitar or delicate piano...HOLY CR@P!!! Such incredible depth; my jaw dropped to the floor.  As I have posited many times, you just don't know what you've been missing in music until you hear it for the first time. Even my reference system can't best it.  So now I am seriously considering replacing some of my reference system cables with these Lavricables. O_O

So, in short, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!!!

In regards to high frequency fatigue, I didn't experience this, however, I can tell if you already experience it on your headphones, these will only accentuate it.  Consider this, the Audioquest Carbon Nightowls were engineered to allow more high frequency information than the original Nighthawks, these cables did not allow the headphones to roll off any high frequency information. When I first heard a pair of Sennheiser 800s, I recalled the level of high frequency clarity.  With these Lavricables, the Audioquest Nightowls sound very similar.