Vandersteen Forum


I bought an older pair of Vandersteen 2Ce and did not like them. Found out one woofer was crackling (what I did not like was poor tweeter and midrange). I went onto the Vandersteen forum to see if changing a component or two would better the sound than 25 year old speakers. In 2022 almost anyones speakers sound better than 25 year old Vandersteen technology. 
The replies raised my eyebrows. I was just wondering if anyone else has had any experience with that forum and did they find it cult-like or is it just me?

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"i drove around in this porsche i just bought with a flat tire, geez it just drives like crap, so i went to the porsche forum, asked people can this car be made to drive better if i went to jrz coilovers instead of the stock bilsteins... and man, those people had nothing useful to say, just told me to fix the flat, don’t modify anything, and wouldn’t engage on anything else.... what jerks...

I think that it is even worse than that @jjss49, as the OP was suggesting replacing the one driver with a JBL… so it would be like running the Porsche on 3 Michelins and 1 Pirelli.
But maybe he was talking about using all JBLs?

 

In your car analogy, I guess that the JRZ coilovers would analogous to the crossovers? So I think one may want to tune the suspension to the tyres?

I cannot see any easy way to do that. I only see finite options:

  1. The RMA approach.
  2. Going full DIY and wiring each driver in an active crossover scheme.
  3. Or totally reworking the passive XO from scratch.

#3 is way beyond my skill.

I feel for the OP, as I would be upset if I spent 4K on used speakers and a driver was blown. And knowing I could have got them brand new for $5350.
But that decision process was not the fault of the V forum.

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It is possible that it might have been your tone that set people off?


As an idea I’ll add “a #4” to my previous list of 3 finite possibilities:

1: Speaker driver:

What I would suggest is to get a Parts Express DATS. Remove the driver from the speaker that works. Then once you have measured its T/S parameters, you can find a good candidate for a replacement.

Whether what matches best is that JBL, a ScanSpeak wu18, or something else like a Peerless or Seas, is unknown… but at least it would be a way to select a driver that does its best to work with the existing crossover.

 

2: Crossover:

You could move the crossover left to right to determine whether, in fact, it sounds the same in the existing good speaker.

 

MY speakers were $800 plus $400 for shipping. That isn’t as good as one guy who paid $175 but better than the eBay guy who wants $3000. It was Sir Vandicream that was the one who said I paid too much for my speakers so he himself does not value them at $800. Why the heck should I fork-out $400 to $500 to send them to the Vandersteen Factory (including 2 way shipping? Is it not my choice?

I think your post over there may have been interpreted as you spent the $3000 and $1000 in shipping… which was at least how I had read it. Maybe other’s did not come to a similar conclusion.., “I dunno”.

 

BSPKE is a nice man. He offered good advice and was a gentleman.

Agreed… and I’ll strive to try to be more like @bkeske and Gentleman Jim @tomic601 .

 

Best of luck with the effort.

It is possible that it might have been your tone that set people off?

duh... 

my oh my...

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