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thieliste

No doubt that the Vitus is a better performer that Gryphon integrated.

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tomthiel

Awesome! That your joint venture with Bill Thalmann is developing out well. His reputation as a businessman and Audio technician is impeccable.  Great to have his presence on board.  Yes, this newest incarnation of Cardas is not the same as previous generations.  It is rumored that Cardas imports Copper from China for their designs. If true, this is an instant deal breaker for me.  Too bad because my AYRE gear is voiced with Cardas wire.  I simply do not believe that America has a copper shortage problem. Other than economic practices, I see no reason for these American Cable manufacturers dealing with China?

On a serious tip, We still have a few American Cable companies that continue to keep business practices “ in the family”. Rare in 2022 but true.

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jafant - Cardas makes heavy claims for its particular American copper mine source. I would suspend judgement based on rumors. We don't know what we don't know.

I have gotten more education around wire than I ever thought possible. Verifying claims is part of that education.

Regarding the ongoing discussion around integrated amplification - there is plenty of reason to keep 'it' in one chassis, to avoid another set of cables and their terminations.

jafant,

I agree with Tom Thiel. I would not make any judgments about the source of Cardas copper based only on rumors. Angela Cardas states that their copper is mined in New Mexico. At this point, I have no reason to question that. 

tomthiel

Thank you for the follow up.

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