would b&w 802n be an upgrade to my b&w 804S?

If the sound will be improved minimal at best, then i will pass on the speakers.

thanks

If you can't tell the difference or like what you have, than keep what you have. The N802 is a substantial upgrade from an N804. There are audible reasons it is two models up and way more money than the 804.

I do not know if i could hear a difference and i am comparing a newer "S" model with the older "N" 802.

To the earlier post by Stringreen. Who cares if you're no fan of B&W. You push Vandersteen as if no other brand should even be considered. The gentleman is considering a great pair of 802N's for 4k.The closest Vandy in that range new is the 3A, which the B&W, any B&W for that matter will easily best. Just do a comparison. I have. You could even jump to a used pair of Quatros, and the 802's would still be the better choice.

I concur with Rhljazz (fwiw). i have heard both 804 and 802, and the 802 to me is closer to the really big B&Ws than to the 804. and i really like the 804. The 802 has a depth and weight to its music, a soundstage size that to me, marks beginning of the big boy B&w (800, 801, 802)...i have not heard the Nautilus. by contrast the 804 feels like the fuller sized big brother to the smaller B&Ws and the lower ranges. one man's opinion.