New Dedicated Line - Almost No improvement


Hello,

Newbie here and electrical idiot. Just moved to a new to us house in Tampa. Before we moved in I had an electrician put in a dedicated line (has it's own breaker switch) which is 10 gauge and two Furutech GTX-D outlets - Rhodium.

When I hooked up the EMI meter in my old house, which didn't have a dedicated line, the reading was usually around 26 or so IIRC. At the new house the outlets are 89 usually and the dedicated line is usually around 82 - so not much help for the cost of the "project" and pretty noisy.

Also, when the ac /hvac is running the meter reads about 100 points higher (!) for both the regular outlets and the dedicated Furutechs. Not good.

Thoughts? Does the dedicated line need it's own breaker box? 

I'm also considering a line conditioner but wanted to see what could be done here. Thanks.

laynes

lowrider57’s avatar

Example:

Courtesy of Glen B, (AA member)

https://www.audioasylum.com/messages/tweaks/146113/re-yes

Here is a photo of the interior of a main lug only panel. Note the breaker connecting bus tie for each each breaker space.

Siemens PN3048L1125C PN Series 125 Amp 30-Space ...

 

From an above post of mine.

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As for the layout of the branch circuit breakers in an electrical panel:

Line 1 and Line 2 alternate with one another down each side of the electrical panel.

Odd breaker numbers are on the left side. Even breaker numbers on the right side. If you look closely at the breakers metal panel dead front you should see the numbers. Usually stamped into the metal. If you can’t see them here is how the breakers are numbered. (Note: For standard sized 1" single pole breakers. A 2 pole breaker takes up two 1" spaces.)

 

L1 = Line 1. (Leg, Bus)

L2 = Line 2. (Leg, Bus)

brk = breaker. (Or unused breaker space.)

 

L1 >> brk #1 ...... brk #2

L2 >> brk #3 ....... brk #4

L1 >> brk #5 ....... brk #6

L2 >> brk #7 ....... brk #8

L1 >> brk #9 ....... brk #10

L2 >> brk #11 ..... brk #12

L1 >> brk #13 .... brk #14

And so on down each side of the panel.

Note breaker space #39 and breaker space #40 share the same breaker connecting bus tie. Both 39 and 40 are connected to Line 2 bus, Leg.

Jim

I agree with giving the system more time. I had a new sub panel, wiring etc installed in my basement while we were in the process of finishing it. I took the system I had been listening to for months and moved it into the basement and it sounded horrible. After more play time the system settled in a sounded good again. Wire break in may not make sense on paper but my experience says it is real. Good luck!

@jea48 

Yes, that's how my panel looks.

L1 >> brk #1 ...... brk #2

L2 >> brk #3 ....... brk #4

L1 >> brk #5 ....... brk #6

L2 >> brk #7 ....... brk #8

L1 >> brk #9 ....... brk #10

L2 >> brk #11 ..... brk #12

L1 >> brk #13 .... brk #14

And so on down each side of the panel.

If I provided misleading information, I apologize, it was very late. 

 I didn't realise breaker space #39 and breaker space #40 share the same breaker connecting bus tie. Thanks for the correction.

Jim

@ditusa Great reference, much appreciated.

I ran 3 dedicated lines a few years ago. They are probably 12 g.  I haven't patched the drywall yet as I have had a lingering doubt I did it right.  My electrician did not have heavier wire and he struggled to pass the 12 gage in the walls.  I think I need to call him back out to replace add 2 more lines for each of my mono amps and maybe my tube pre amp.

I have found separating the digital and analog front end gear beneficial.  I have 2 mono amps on the 3rd line.

I use a PS power regenerator on the digital, a Shunyata Denali on the analog and the amps are plugged into a Furutech outlet.

I have been eyeing the PSM156, I was unaware of the trial.  Its hard to know what is snake oil and what works.  I tried an Akiko Corelli and it worked so well I bought 2 more.  I have one on each front end line and the third on the outlet in the PS Audio P10 that the music server uses.  My Linn LP12 has such a noisy power supply I had to take it off the dedicated lines and Shunyata conditioner.  The same for the SMPS for a pair of REF longbows.  The SMPS's totally polluted the PS Audio P10.  They are now polluting the non dedicated house lines.

I have a dozen PS Audio Noise Harvesters.  Those little things actually help.  I have them on the shared outlets in the conditioner and regenerator.