Horizontal vs Vertical biamping


Hi all. I am looking for some feedback. I am horizontally biamping 2 Rogue ST 100 amps. I am using DS 2 preamp, Aurender N10, Yggy LIM Dac, Legacy Signature SE speakers. It sounds really good. I have tried vertical biamping with this setup thinking it would sound even better. I have read that it would but in reality it does not sound as good. A bit thin and unresolving I would say. Anyone care to weigh in on why this would be? Thanks in advance. 

backdoor

@backdoor,

In my opinion active, bi amping is sometimes hard to implement, and the user is often left to his own devices. It should not be undertaken without first asking the manufacturer's advice. See crossover below: 

Mike

 

https://www.passlabs.com/legacy_products/xvr-1

 

Why do you have to remove the passive components from the speakers, don't you just have to bypass them and can still leave them in the speaker cabinet?

You could leave them in the box, but they should be disconnected from the drivers. You could bypass them, but the possibility of screwing up is not zero. In the case of the Legacy SE, the speakers should likely be tri-amped as there is an XO between the mid and tweet. If done properly, the speaker was voiced to compensate for driver/XO interaction.

Something like the Dayton is pretty basic and the A/D is probably quite audible.

XO & D/A should be implemented in the digital domain. However, doing that properly is not trivial for what looks to be a fairly complex XO in the SE:

 

That's what I like about apogee speakers, they are already set up for active you just have to change a few wires around. There is also a lot of info on using an active crossover with them, you are correct though most speakers aren't set up like this and not a lot of info on crossover settings.

Not only that, but it's my experience that while the physical XO Hz & order may be known, they are only a starting point. Better performance may be obtained with active XO Hz & order quite different from stock params.

 

Not only that, but it's my experience that while the physical XO Hz & order may be known, they are only a starting point. Better performance may be obtained with active XO Hz & order quite different from stock parameters.

 

 

Good point, most have found this to be true with the apogee speakers.