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Room tuning or listen to as is condition?

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Reading my discussion thread is one of my joyful audio life on Audiogon. I love people sharing their stories.

Today’s topic is simple. When you purchased a new pair of speakers, do you consider room tuning according to them? or just put the speakers as balanced as possible(e.g. same distance)?

I recently set up my personal Devore Fidelity 96/Orangutan speakers in my office listening room set up while I sent my demo unit SuperMon Isobaric to a friend. Yes I do own many different speakers other than Mon Acoustic Audio speakers as my audio life began before I met Mon Acoustic 😘

In my room, I have a square room (appr. 25ft x 15ft), when I first had this room set up, I could not hear the bass of SuperMon Isobaric as we have set up at AXPONA 2022. Since this is a new office in Artesia, CA, I decided to do some more thorough learning of my own space.

I need to learn how to post with an image here. I wanted to share my measurement graph from REW, not sure how to do this here.

Anyway, I found out I only needed one bass trap and an acoustic panel that reduced huge dip in my bass from right speaker. This side has a glass window that is causing weird cancelation of bass. Which I improved. Before the measurement, I had a bass trap for both speaker sides.

So please share your story on what procedures or what steps you go through when you set up your system.

 

 

 

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mike_in_nc
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About 20 yrs ago, I had a small windfall and bought the most costly speakers I've owned -- Revel Ultima Studio. (I am a scientist, not a doctor, lawyer, or tycoon -- so no Wilsons or YG or Magicos.) I got them delivered, and they sounded just like the old cheap speakers.

Somehow, I realized the issue was room acoustics, and I got a plan from ASC. I wound up spending about 50% of the speakers' cost in acoustic treatments, and the improvement wasn't 50%, it was 500% in clarity, smoothness, and evenness.

I have never gone back and make room treatment a priority in my audio room ever since.

spenav
430 posts
 

For frequencies between 20HZ and about 250HZ your room will be the dominant factor. Although I use an array of 4 subs, I still used REW and some room treatment to get the best bass my money can give me. Strangely, getting the bass right did a lot for the mid and high frequencies.  Go figure. By the way, a square room can be a nightmare when it comes to bass. 
Also, there is a thread where the admin explained how to post pictures, videos and graphs. Do a search on it and you will be all set. 

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panzrwagn
533 posts
 

I am fortunate enough to have had formal training in architectural acoustics and learned a few fundamental truths. 1) What you hear in the nearfield is dominated by the speakers input input into the room. 2) What you hear in the farfield is dominated by the output of the room - the early relections plus the reverberant field. 3) In most domestic rooms, the critical distance, where the level of the speaker and reverberant fields are equal,  equal, is closer than you think. 4) If you want to hear the speakers, not the room, acoustical treatment of the room is mandatory. 

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jjss49
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1) What you hear in the nearfield is dominated by the speakers input input into the room. 2) What you hear in the farfield is dominated by the output of the room - the early relections plus the reverberant field. 3) In most domestic rooms, the critical distance, where the level of the speaker and reverberant fields are equal,  equal, is closer than you think. 4) If you want to hear the speakers, not the room, acoustical treatment of the room is mandatory. 

i very much agree with this

of course, for statement #4, the alternative is to sit in a true nearfield setup if one won't or can't treat the room properly...

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retiredfarmer
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Yes good for you. Ma y people get upset when a person mentions  even a basic set up item. Glad you are experimenting  and using your ears. Enjoy

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