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Added an SUT...not sure I understood this

I just added a Denon AU-320 step-up transformer in between my AT-OC9XML cart and my ARC SP-14 preamp.  I am glad that the (relatively quiet) hum that had been present before is now gone...and I mean gone...since that was what motivated me to add an SUT.

However:

I sort of expected that I would also experience a noticeable increase in gain.  Specifically, using the 40-ohm (10X) tap, I would have expected maybe a 6-8 dB increase in volume, and more with the 3 ohm tap.  I am not hearing that, and in fact am getting the opposite effect.  This means I actually have to peg the volume control if I want to achieve 95 dB levels at my listening position, something I rarely, but still occasionally, do.

Also, I removed the 22-ohm loading resistor upon connecting the SUT.  I noticed previously that a 40-ohm loading still had the cart sounding pretty bright.  But with no loading and using the 40-ohm tap, things sound natural.  I sort of expected I was going to need to add a 40-ohm resistor (at the tonearm) to achieve the same loading.

All of this confuses me; I'm happy so far with the sound yet perplexed.  Perhaps some good Samaritan here will be able to explain why I am hearing what I am hearing.  in the meantime, I'm just going to enjoy my quieter background. 

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dover
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@woofhaven1992 

The sheet that came with my cart says 20 ohms.

I don't believe this. All OC9's are recommended 100ohm minimum. I used to sell them. If it sounds better at 20 ohms, there must be something wrong with your system.

Perhaps you could post a picture of the sheet you are referring to.

 

 

lewm
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You came here for help, and several knowledgeable people have tried to help. You ought to be open minded about accepting advice, since you clearly do not have an in depth understanding of what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that, unless you continue to insist on many of your misconceptions. Dover pasted the spec sheet here, so you can see that the minimum load R is 100 ohms. At 20 or 22 ohms the cartridge ought to sound weak and dull, because a large fraction of its output would be lost to ground and high frequencies would be rolled off. The fact that you found 100 ohm load resistance in your unit proves you’ve been connecting the SUT to its MC inputs, because there’s no way ARC would have installed 100 ohms at MM inputs. So if you put your SUT away, just directly drive your MC inputs and sayonara. Like Raul said.

lewm
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By the way, when we speak of MM inputs vs MC inputs, those are euphemisms for low phono gain (usually 40 to 50db) vs high phono gain (usually >60db). Also with your SUT set at its 40 ohm mode(1:10 ratio), and into those 100 ohm resistors, the load seen by the cartridge is 1 ohm! 

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atmasphere
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@lewm is right and so is @dover . At this point IMO the thing to do would be to get someone to remove those 100 Ohm resistors. SUTs are usually designed to drive 47KOhms (although Jensen makes one designed to drive opamps that expects to see 6.8K).

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rauliruegas
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Dear friends: This is what posted the OP:

 

"" @rauliruegas Yes I have been using the SP14 with no SUT for some time, and the sound is great except for a touch of hum just at the level of the noise floor. I decided to fiddle with this SUT as a way of addressing that problem, ....""

 

So, he already knows that in that way the QS is excellent but that hum. Nothing is perfect and always with trade-offs but that SUT the OP choosed is a bs of SUT, it's a wrong path not only for that cartridge but for any cartridge in any audio system.

In the other side if that hum is at the system noise floor then it's not really a problem to die for.

 

R.

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