Pass Labs 150.8 and XP-20 versus PrimaLuna Dialogue Premier HP integrated

I had PL integrated amp prior to purchasing my Pass Lab equipment ; 250.8 and XP20. I would not say PL was junk at all. Quite the opposite, it is build extremely well. The sound from the PL is terrific. The only reason I moved away is I need more with my Wilson Yvette’s. 

Prima Luna is outclassed in every way vs the new Passlabs 
.8 series, even their integrated amp for sure will beat any Prima Luna combinations which I have heard several ,and for the record quality U.S made products 
are far better build and engineered especially A Nelsen Pass 
designed piece of Electronics !! And resale no comparison.

Don’t sell the PL short.  It is a very well made amp, and is $3K vs. $10K for the Pass 250.8.  As for as being “one of the best amps at any price,”. OK, that is BS and another reason to take anything that Stereophile says with a grain of salt.  I have a PL Dialogue Premier HP and it was fantastic with my Focal Diablo Utopia III’s.  But no surprise, the Pass at over 3x the cost was a much better amp.  Plus, after replacing the Focal’s with Wilson Sabrina X’s, the Pass was a perfect combo, along with my ARC REF6.  I sent the Pass back to the factory for a tune-up and put the PL back in.  At lower volumes, the PL still sounds good, but my Wilson’s really need more power. You can hear the PL straining at higher volume, say 88db+ The PL is not a good amp for those speakers.  Another thing to keep in mind about the PL’s, and I never did this because I didn’t want 1 million tubes to have to deal with, but in monoblock mode, the PL’s put out 175 watts each, which would probably sound great for any purpose for $6K or so.  For me though, my ARC/Pass/Wilson combo is the perfect balance.  Pass Just does everything right and their customer service is flawless. It is in a different but much more expensive league. But at the price point where PL sits, it is a great amp.

The pass labs is much better sounding as well as engineering built , one of prima luna biggest weaknesses  is its volume attenuator ,still using a Low price Alps volume pots 

which is a $20 item and cost a lot in detail ,especially low level., vs a good shunt resistor pot, or relay type.

i have been into mods for over 20 years ,and I trust Nelson Pass much more so then anything built in China .