Why not?


I have always wondered why if better cables produce better sound, as appears to be the consensus, I am not aware of any manufacturer that provides an aftermarket quality power cable with their product. If I am wrong please tell me. There may be instances I am not familiar with.

Wouldn't they be in the best position to test or design the optimum cable for their component? Wouldn't it be a great marketing angle to say to the customer does not need to worry or fret about selecting this expensive accessory.

"We know these cables show off our component to best effect and there is not question of listener bias or self interested market hype. We offer you the best cable to use with our components." 

They could make it optional if they wanted to remain price competitive. This same thinking applies to interconnects, especially with manufacturers who make multiple interconnected components. I pose these questions in all sincerity, not particularly wishing to stir the cable controversy pot. But because it is precisely the absence of this practice that most makes me doubt the objective superiority of the whole cable enterprise.

Mostly I would like to know if I am wrong and there are some examples of manufacturers who either include, offer or recommend specific power, interconnect and speaker cable for their products. Thanks community members for offering a place to ask this question that keeps gnawing at me.

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I completely disagree with ‘deserve your attention’ notion. When I am shopping for electronics, I am considering its features, design, implementation and how it’s going to sound in my system. I didn’t buy my $25K EMM Labs DAC because they included $200 Kimber Power Cable which I did not care to use, instead I used a $5K PC. 

@lalitk Bingo!  A perfect example and case in point.  

@holmz

I was talking about the components not the cord!

Well others are mentioning power cords.
My old gear had a detached power supply, and my newer (old gear) also has a detached power supply… so maybe it was designed not to need an ex[enive power cable?

I use mostly Mogami and Neutrik ends for DIY ICs, but I am also trying some silver IC cable and ETI ends.

Mogami (and Cardas, etc.) do at least publish the capacitance and inductance specs of the raw IC cable, as well as their speaker cable. Kimber also publishes those specs. The ones that do not publish those specs, I assume have no real R&D, nor the equipment to measure things… And they also fall mostly into what I call “the creative writing group.”

I would like to hear the difference, but I really have a hard time convincing myself that one low capacitance and low inductance cable sounds different than another.
When I basically cannot tell them apart, I conclude it is because they mostly make no difference.

Which Cardas or Kimber cables did you try Sherlock Holmes that did not make any difference? And on what?

1) AQUA includes a decent power cable with Hubbell style terminations.

2) The dealer channel would prefer manufacturers not include upmarket power cords as that is a significant profit center for the dealer.

If I may @ghdprentice  you commented earlier on that this problem had occurred to you as well. You have spent a lot more time and money than me in the pursuit of sonic excellence and I think you said in another thread that you had been in the tech industry. Given your experience, doesn't it seem to you there could be a better way to help people shop for cables than our current situation?  It is very daunting to any newcomer or even those more experienced but time and budget limited. Industry pundits bemoan the lack of new blood entering hi-fi. Certainly the cable market is a part of the impediments to feeling like you know what you are doing. 

@lalitk  and @soix  Perfectly fine to disagree, honestly. I don't think anybody would force you to buy cables you don't want and I don't think this thread was aimed at those with your extensive knowledge of the subject. It is for people like me who struggle with the whole cable thing and would like some help or who want to make the system better. However, our hobby occasionally is criticized for being elitist and snobby and that is also something worth thinking about.

And lastly, "Cable denier" is an interesting term @thyname , I assume you weren't referring to me because I indicated earlier I am agnostic at this point. I would accept the label of "cable rationalist" however because I would dearly like a reasoned way to find the best most affordable cables for my systems without having to bump around at random wasting time and money.