Atma-Sphere Class D… Amazing


Today I picked up my Atma-Sphere Class D Amps. These aren’t broken in yet. And they are simply amazing. I’ve listen to a lot of High End Class D. Some that cost many times what Atma-Sphere Class D costs. I wasn’t a fan of any of them. But these amps are amazing. I really expected to hate them. So my expectations were low. The Details are of what I’ve never heard from any other amps. They are extremely neutral. To say the realism is is extremely good is a gross understatement. They are so transparent it’s scary. These amps just grab you and suck you into the music. After I live with them some and get them broken in. And do some comparisons to some other high end Amps Solid State, Tubes and Class D’s, also in other systems I’ll do a more comprehensive review. But for now, these are simply amazing amps.. Congrats to Ralph and his team. You guys nailed on these.

 

 

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So, one thing that would make it sound more open sounding is to remove the steel plate over the transformer and removed the steel bolt.

I’ll let you in on a secret. Use Non-magnetic stainless bolts and then you don’t have to go thru all that. A regular steel bolt heats up because its a magnetic resistance to the transformer and typically runs hotter than the transformer itself! Change it out to stainless and the transformer draws less power and runs cooler- and may well put out a slightly higher voltage. But FWIW due to the high amount of feedback, the class D has a lot of power supply noise (and voltage sag) rejection. Class D amps running less feedback will benefit more on this account.

The Cardas binding posts are good but even better is to get rid of the posts, put slightly longer wire on the output and clamp that wire directly to your speaker cables using nylon bolts, washers and nuts sitting right outside the binding post holes

Anyone doing this is really asking for trouble! To start with any manufacturer would void the warranty in a heartbeat. It also doesn’t go down well unless you live in a mancave wearing cargo shorts and no hope of a date :) ... if you get my drift

Of course, you would want to put a Furutech super IEC inlet on the amp and get rid of the stock inlet. Get a fuse holder from Acme and wire it off the Furutech inlet and get one of those new yeller fuses from Quantum Science......

This is a really Bad Idea. In our case there’s an AC filter on the backside of the IEC connector (the amp in the video is from the first production prototype run). If this isn’t present, there could be noise issues. In our amp, the rectifiers in the power supply are the main source of noise and we did a lot to snub them, but the noise filter was added to really make it silent. In this way it puts out less noise on the AC line than most tube amps. You could change out the fuse but I think you’ll find that due to the large amount of feedback, the minuscule voltage drop across the fuse will have no effect whatsoever.

How about changing the op amp on the input to a discrete one? Discrete op amps are generally more real and open sounding.

Here’s another thing I’ll let you in on. What is important in opamps is something called Gain Bandwidth Product. If you have enough to support the feedback in the circuit, there will be no ’sound’ of the opamps other than noise (and in our case the noise floor of the amp is mostly from the opamps). Back in the 1960s and well into the 1980s opamps did have a ’sound’ which is why if you have to change out an opamp in a vintage guitar effects pedal, its important to find an exact replacement or the pedal won’t sound right (guitar players are quite picky about that sort of thing!). Our input buffer has a gain of 2, which is to say there’s a lot of feedback and with modern opamps, as long as you don’t ask more than about 20dB or so, they will be as neutral as you can get.

A friend of mine designed one of the higher performance discreet opamps out there (back when it was still worth it) and he’ll be one of the first to tell you what I did above. IOW doing something like this will result in no benefit whatsoever. To design a class D amp you can’t just wing it by plopping parts in; you have to do the math and understand the engineering behind it.

 

 

 

 

 

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To design a class D amp you can’t just wing it by plopping parts in; you have to do the math and understand the engineering behind it.

An embarrassment that this even needs mentioning. A sad fact there is always someone out there looking to make money off of the ignorance and insecurity of others.

Ralph,

It is the truth that anything conductive on top of the transformer or in the middle will mess up the sound.....so, you don’t want non magnetic stainless steel, brass or anything like that. You want plastic or wood.....wood being preferable. You can tie your transformer down using glue and wire ties.....works great. A steel plate on top of the transformer will mess up the sound. This is truth.

Hot rodding does not always look good.....what do you care what the amp looks like from behind?

You can make an even better AC filter and put it on a board....much better sonically than the ones that are encased in steel.....way better. Audiophile fuses most always make a sonic improvement.....it has nothing to do with voltage drop. They all have a sound (every brand of fuse sounds different)......just like the AC inlet has a sound. The one you are using is not as good of SOUNDING inlet as a Furutech.....and even the various versions of Furutech inlets sound different from each other.

You are wrong about op amps......every opamp made TODAY sounds different from every other op amp made today. None of them have "no sound". The best discrete op amps are simply more real sounding than any "chip" op amp. I have listened to even the latest op amps and still none of them are as good as a great discrete circuit.......they are getting close.....but to get the last bit of depth, palpability and realism......no....not there yet. And any circuit is only as good as the regulators, AC power, fuses. capacitors, bypass caps, wire, resistors (yes, every brand of surface mount resistor has a SOUND).

The reason I KNOW all this is because I do serious listening tests. This is the only way to KNOW something is real. This is not philosophy or something YOU THINK is real. When you hear it....you KNOW. You have to have a willingness to really KNOW and an openess to find out.....it is not about pre conceived notions. You do listening tests to blow your mind.....not to confirm your bias. The ego wants to define and defend. The soul wants to expand and love. The ears just listen and know. The heart feels and knows.

Kuribo,

Being right and making people wrong is just an ego game. If you have not listened with an open mind to what I am taling about then you have NO KNOWLEDGE....just words. Knowledge is direct experience....not "thinking you know". If you want to KNOW something about audio....then you have to listen.....without prejudice. Are all the thousands of people worldwide who have listened to audiophile fuses and love them and describe the sound of different brands all hypnotized by the "snake oil salesmen"?.......are we all that stupid? CAN WE TRUST OUR EARS?........I believe so. What I share with others is what I have learned from listening. When I get a benefit sonically, I want to share it with the world because most people who LISTEN and TRY what I suggest find the same truth....they hear pretty much the same thing and their sound is benefited. I want people to have better sound....that is why I share......what is your purpose here?