@thezaks (Dave)
Thank you for seeing the back and forth between me (and 3 others) and keithr for what it really was. I was perplexed to read keithr's post on this thread "Alon doesn’t design the speakers, guys." I didn't use abusive language or bad mouth him, I simply wanted for him to clarify his statement. For keithr to then post "I forgot rbach for whatever reason has a thing against me and I’m not going to engage anymore." I believe what he is talking about is last year when I called him out for speaking in a negative way towards Jay on WBF. Here is my response to him on this thread and his quote from WBF.....
rbach
189 posts
10-30-2021 at 09:12am
@keithr
I believe zprr does know what he's talking about. Your statement about Jay in your WBF post did not paint you in the same light as Jay (just a couple of crazy amp guys). Your statement was derogatory towards him. You were complaining about Jay calling Pass Lab amps "mid fi" and the way the hi end has gotten so expensive. Like I said in my previous post to you.
'keithr, don't you think it would be more accurate to say the crazy amp dude placed Pass Labs in his middle tier group based on amps he has personally owned?'
You made a mistake and it's time to move on instead of trying to wiggle out of it.
And for everyone's pleasure, here it is again.
From a post keithr made on WBF
"When I hear folks say $15k amplifiers are budget oriented, I feel the hobby has lost its way (see the crazy amp dude's YouTube channel that considers Pass Labs "mid fi"). The average Stereophile reader's system is $19k, but this is WBF after all so I guess it's expected. The reason this hobby has shrunk so much is the focus in the audiophile media and community on high priced bling of the month - I chuckled two years ago when TAS declared the $50k speaker category as "highly competitive." Dagostino is famously designed on form over function. Have you seen the internals of a Constellation compared with the expensive case? Why does carbon fibre and installation lights *on the back(!)* of a Chronosonic impress people?"
Also, here are just a few posts keithr has made on Agon. I am on a business trip currently and don't have time to go through the many 'no so great posts on Magico' made by keithr on WBF.
From Audiogon:
keithr
1,281 posts
04-23-2021 at 10:10pm
Haven’t checked in on this thread in months, Magico with big SS seems sorta boring. But I guess Wilson and Magico with the goal of hearing a pin prick on a stage is appealing to some.
Meanwhile, Fyne F1-12s land in my room in a few weeks :) Figuring out what the perfect amp will be, but when 50 watts is enough there are so many options, mostly inexpensive. I’m surprised Jay hasn’t gone in this direction as an amp guy like me.
keithr
1,281 posts
04-24-2020 at 09:32pm
Still haven’t heard a musically convincing Magico system in a decade. They are analytical, non-dynamic, and not particularly coherent. YG is a much better speaker in aluminum land.
keithr
1,281 posts
06-10-2019 at 08:22am
Interesting how ears are different - I found the Vandy room sleepy (as usual) and the M2s on Burmester borderline dead. I guess I prefer more dynamic sound (and tbh don't value imaging as much). I, too, am sensitive to hot tweeters from all the way back in my Dynaudio days vs the popular JM Lab at the time.
keithr
1,281 posts
12-05-2018 at 08:19am
I've heard the A3s on Vac monoblocks at the LA Audio Show and me and two others found them dynamically restricted and kinda dead sounding.
I have owned several Magico speakers and currently own a pair. There are many speakers I don't care for but am careful not to criticize them publicly. I have nothing personally against keithr....I just think he should read what he writes before pressing send.