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Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy

"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler
djones51
4,947 posts
 

Don’t I then need to add carefully controlled double blind listening sessions?

That's what I meant by reliable controlled tests. Unless cables, amps, DACs etc.. have vastly different measurements that's the only way to get a realistic view of these components. Sighted listening tests or just proclaiming from above on difference in sound doesn't inform anyone of anything. 

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snapsc
676 posts
 

I see a couple positives at ASR. 

1.  they measure things that might not otherwise be measured. How the measurements are interpreted is up to each of us individually… and if you derive no benefit, you are free to ignore.  
 

2.  ASR points out shoddy construction and safety concerns that you don’t see anywhere else. 

fleschler OP
2,015 posts
 

Yes, and mostly on cheap audio gear.  

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laoman
444 posts
 

Snapsc: "ASR points out shoddy construction and safety concerns that you don’t see anywhere else. "

No they do not! Topping has had some real reliability issues. These were pointed out by some members of ASR. Amit refused to accept any responsibility for this at all and said he just measures the, So people have bought a "great measuring" dac or amp that sounds average and that quickly breaks down. Wonderful!

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