Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy


"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler

Well ASR probably does a decent job of covering reasonable performing low budget components.But they seem to be a bit obsessed with the concept that new technology has to be best because it might measure well.Like the Purifu Class D amps for example.When a very affordable gainclone type chip amp which is not new technology probably sounds better.And also arguably some of the older Hypex Class D.

@jtgofish Sadly, I can't even say that ASR does a decent job at covering low budget amplifiers. ASR just does their usual benchmarking and you're lucky if some member does a comparison between an Infineon chip amp and a Texas Instruments chip amp for example. So you'll be even more confused about amps from reading the ASR forums. So intuitively you'll want to buy the latest offerings from SMSL, Topping or Sabaj. Which one is better? Nobody can give you a straight answer. Some of these amps approach 300€. And for that money you could buy a Cambridge Audio AXA25 (new). But ASR does a poor job at covering budget AB amplifiers. So nobody can tell you whether you should buy a cheap AB amp or class D chip amp. You only have a "SINAD" score to compare the amps. 

 

With ASR they are based on science

Is this the same science that brought us Covid lockdowns and climate change extinction?  On the Internet and mass media, science is whatever those in power say it is.

Start with double blind auditioning of equipment and then find a set of test parameters that explain the auditioning results.  After this, you might have some basis for testing the same class of equipment.

@mattw73


Bravo! Excellent post.

I had to laugh at the irony of the title of this thread. Anyone that spends any time at all at ASR would know that ASR has nothing to say about the "sound" of equipment- they are all about objective performance.