Transients hurting my ears on hifi solid state amps


I've looked at many discussions on listening fatigue and similar topics, but haven't really found the answer to the specific problem I've been having.

To me, modern higher end solid state amplifiers tend have too much slam or too sharp transients and that ends up hurting my ears even at 60db levels. Even listening to mellow jazz, the piano notes are just uncomfortable to listen to because of the attack.

I currently have Buchardt S300 Mk II speakers, which are not high sensitivity by any stretch, and are rather smooth sounding, but I don't know if they could contribute to the issue somehow?

The worst case regarding amplifiers I tried was the Rogue Sphinx V2, which is 100W hybrid Class D with tube preamp. Another I had at home for an extended period and had an issue with was the Arcam SA20, which should be a relatively smooth sounding amplifier, and it did get a little closer to what I was looking for.

I currently have a Primaluna Dialogue Premium integrated and I'm very happy with it. The amp I tried to replace was a Marantz PM6005, which is also very smooth. Both are under the recommended power rating of the speakers (even though that's relative for a tube amp), so I'm wondering whether that could be part of it.

I listen mostly to vinyl (Graham Slee Reflex M preamp) with some digital too (Denafrips Pontus II). Both are relatively smooth and vinyl, while usually being softer, doesn't solve the issue. 

I'm looking to switch back to solid state (class AB) for various reasons and I was wondering if anybody had had similar experiences and recommendations for amps? Most amps, especially higher end, tend to emphasize the dynamics, punch, agility, etc. and I struggle to find anything that would seem to fit the bill. Tubes seem to do the trick for me, especially with some tube rolling, but not sure where to go with solid state. The budget would be around 2000$.

haskisoundi

But you already have the PrimaLuna and like it?
The reviews and measurements in stereophile look good.

If the main reason to move away from tubes was the heat, then I am not sure it will get better.

It seems like a sideways move to me.
But I’d probably trade my PrimaLuna for a Pass.

It is indeed in part a sideways move and that's why I would ideally find a class AB solid state option. However, heat wasn't the only reason to move away from tubes.

Other examples were the one-minute warm up time during which the amp is on mute, having to switch it to my preferred triode mode, having to keep it turned on in case I want to use it again in the near future, as each cycle damages the tubes and because you need to wait for a certain time before starting it up again to save tubes.

There are also security concerns with children and just the hassle of tubes: their long-term availability, searching for the ideal NOS tubes, finding the best combination, etc. Some people like tube rolling and the possibility to adapt the sound to their liking, but I would prefer an amp with no tweaking possibilities that can be just left as is. I'm being very negative here, but it's just to make the point regarding the accumulation of things that have been bothering me at different points. I do love my tubes in guitar gear (including in various pedals) and wouldn't ever imagine going solid state there, but it's just a very different use case.

The Pass lacks auto standby, which is its biggest drawback. But you can turn it on and off with the remote any time without needing to worry about hurting any component of it. And if its left on unattended, there's not the same danger as if a tube goes bad. But the current draw and heat at idle are definitely concerns on the Pass. To me, it would at least be a pretty good step in the right direction in terms of what my concerns are with my PrimaLuna, even though it's not ideal as you point out. In addition, I do believe, and hope for the price, that it would be a move up in terms of sound, as you also allude to.

You mention the Stereophile measurement look good, are there aspects I should look out for in measurements that could help me identify the amp that might work for me? I've never really tried to understand measurements.

Ok - WRT my contrarian and questioning post, it looks like you’ve thought it all through.

well done sir!

This is caused by higher ordered harmonics that are part of the distortion spectra of the amplifier. In this case, those higher ordered harmonics are not masked by the lower orders. The ear is keenly sensitive to the higher orders as it uses them to sense sound pressure. It also converts all forms of distortion to a tonality; the higher orders are interpreted as 'harsh and bright'.

@atmasphere 

You are obviously very knowledgeable about this, so I would like to ask you a follow up question about this:

Since the OP is referring to "transients", could it also not be due to his amplifier using excessive loop negative feedback, which might be causing Transient Intermodulation Distortion?

Thanks @holmz! ;) You're completely right to question my choices and conclusions, that's often the most helpful thing to do. I do tend to overthink things as you can see, but it definitely doesn't mean I'm necessarily right.

Since the OP is referring to "transients", could it also not be due to his amplifier using excessive loop negative feedback, which might be causing Transient Intermodulation Distortion?

I really appreciate all the technical discussion as I'm not knowledgeable about those aspects at all and it would be great if that could help me identify the right amps for me.

Something more reasonably priced and class AB would still be the ideal option, even if I catch myself dreaming about Pass Labs and other amazing amps like that.