Demagogues tell people what they want to hear. I have a $ 4,000.00 amplifier and ASR tells me that it measures better than one of the hyped up $24,000.00 amplifiers. I like hearing that and automatically equate measures better to sounds better. This opinion cannot be subjective because it is proven by science and so I formulate all of these opinions about audio equipment without hearing any of them. So if the purpose behind buying audio equipment is to test them for frequency response, etc… without ever listening to them, then you have the quantitative evidence that you need for comparing measurements and that’s about it.
So when I made that statement to my friend, he quickly countered with; ‘if you did a double blind listening comparison between your DAC and one of ASR’ cheaper recommended DAC’s, you wouldn’t be able to tell a difference.’ And my response was, ‘see you’ve already determined the results of a double blinded comparison without doing one.’
Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy
"Audiophiles are Snobs" Youtube features an idiot! He states, with no equivocation, that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good. He is either deaf or a liar or both!
There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review. If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public. They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better. They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance. Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.
Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?
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measuring a power cable that’s not plugged into anything and then claiming it has no impact, redlining amps and transducers way past manufacturer recommended spec and pointing out that they distort under these conditions, "listening" at active war zone levels in near field or on headphones, evaluating stereo imaging in mono, claiming nobody else with an AP analyzer is using theirs correctly, and so on. just another day in the life of the internet’s premier audio expert 😂 |
@gosta "A system put toghether from ASR favourites would be very very good. I got one." I believe you. |
"Science" is published in peer reviewed journals. The guy at ASR is asking for money in every review and states upfront that he is a dealer and you can assume as much bias as you like. He can't even properly listen to components because he states proudly he doesn't like room treatments. It is worse than a joke because he has duped people into something like a cult of measurements. |
Thank you Sgreg1, that is one of the biggest reasons I don't even like looking at some of the posts here. This has turned into more of a Trolling site that one for help and education. I find it ironic that people will purchase gear for $100s of thou and think that the great stuff they like bragging about never had any science or engineering behind it. None of that gear was made without carefull adherence to the science, calculations, comparitive measurments, and so much more before the FINAL ear ever heard a single note. Often we can't come up with a particular reasoning as to why something worked the way it did. At least on a moments notice, but that is what the GOTCHA crowd depends on. |
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