Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy


"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler

@esarhaddon I thought we were talking about the measurements recorded by ASR.  No, those test results are done on that website because they are not available in the public domain. That's the whole premise for the website.  Specifications and reviews from What HIFI, Stereophile, etc.. are given but the reviews are primarily done by listening. And by the way, your old friend Joe is the one who did the Stereophile review.

Anyone, are there examples where a cable maker, amp maker, etc.. has posted on the internet or anywhere else, all of the testing that was involved while designing their equipment? If that is the case, then I can see where ASR could compare those results with their own testing and essentially refute the information provided by the manufacturer. In general, I have not seen the testing results involved in building equipment while reading reviews. I've seen specifications and listening reviews/comparisons on 6 Moons, What HIFI and Stereophile but nothing more.

Anyone, are there examples where a cable maker, amp maker, etc.. has posted on the internet or anywhere else, all of the testing that was involved while designing their equipment?

Yes. Plenty of them, obviously not all. I am starting to think your web browser only “points” you to a certain website. For some reason. Or your Google machine is broken / defective 😂. Which is pretty normal. Most people only read stuff that aligns with what they believe in, and ignore reading everything else.

Specifications and reviews from What HIFI, Stereophile, etc.. are given but the reviews are primarily done by listening.

Hmmmmm…. Every single Stereophile review has a very detailed section on measurements only. From J. Atkinson. Again, see above, the point I previously made

@thyname

Most people only read stuff that aligns with what they believe in, and ignore reading everything else.

 

You might believe that but you are most likely being manipulated.

There are many unscrupulous people on the internet who will try to do that to you.

I tend to use Firefox browser and Duckduckgo search with an indispensable adblocker of course.

When I look at the amount of cookies and trackers that are still following me I remind myself to use the incognito tab more often

 

As for the determined evils of Google, don’t get me started.

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8 Reasons Why Google is Evil

https://thebosh.com/10-reasons-why-google-is-evil/

 

You might believe that but you are most likely being manipulated.

Not sure how this statement fits with what I said. Relevance? I was talking about one of the behavioral/ cognitive tendencies we humans have, confirmation bias: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

If you are immune to that, or any cognitive dissonance, then…. what can I say, kudos to you.

As for being manipulated by the internet, social media, and the big tech, well, again, kudos to you for being immune to that.