New Marantz SA11S2?

Mrtennis, I said I wouldn't argue with you about this, but I can't let your reply go unresponded to.

My comment about sonics you say is "Philosophically invalid", which is one of the most non-sensical use of words I've heard yet. You are saying nothing.

In your first response to this post, you claim the player has no bloom or warmth and is thin, which is completely inaccurate. Now, you talk about warm and bloom as euphonic colorations, implying that is what this player sounds like. Sounds pretty contradictory, doesn't it?

I don't agree with Fremer on all his opinions by far, but even he said this player had warmth, and never described it as thin in any way, which he would have done, knowing his writings and inclinations.

If you wish to continue to despise a very good soundng player, I question your motives, or your system, or your hearing. Why don't you list what your system is? I've described mine in my past reviews, which can be looked up under my name.

hi zear:

this is the last staements on the subject, as i don't own the player , and it is an unimportant subjecy. i will also list my system.

1) i said that the player is not warm andd has no bloom. my definitions of each term imply euphonic colorations. i have noy contradicted myself because i have consistently said i find the player on the thin side., which is why i sold it. thus i have not contradicted myself. different definitions lead to different conclusions.

now as to my system:

speakers: magnepan 1.6 and quad 57
preamp:bent tvc passive:
amp:vtl deluxw 120
cables: interconnects--soundstring and cryoset copper
power cords:sound string, ear to ear and western electric copper
cables:speaker: ear to ear
other accessories: sound fusion sound busters beneath most component, furniture foam under dac and transport, chang is0 160, bob young line filter and egg crate mattresses on walls, some room tunes as well.
digital source(s):ps audio pwd and pwt, audio note cd2 and oppo 83 se.

conclusion for me is i did not contrdict myself, if you read wmy words carefully., and in absence of yje marantz in my system, there is not much more to say about the subject.

incidentally, your use of the word inaccurate as applied to the marantz is your opinion. if you don't agree with my hearing it does not suggest a defect in my hearing or system or system set up.

fortunately for both us, i assume, this discussion is not personal only the disagreements among human beings.

Mr Tennis which Western Electric powercord do you have, the single or double braid??? I had both in my system and they are very detailed and made my system sound kind of thin. For the money they are good powercords and not many out there but just weren't a good fit. Maybe you need a more robust sounding powercord????

when i owned the marantz player, i did not own the western electric power cords. i was using ear to ear and soundstring only.

my system is rarely thin. i won't tolerate it.

the western electric power cords are not contributing a peak in the treble. they have copper iec's and plugs. i am not sure as to single or double braiding. they are 14 gauge. i have a variety of western electric cords, fabricated by a friend , this one was selecetd as being warmer than the others.

I believe the Bent and VTL both roll off the high end, so you need a brighter player. I never owned Magnepans or Quads ES (electrostats). Although ES are very detailed and open, I believe their sound beams, so you need to be in a sweet spot, and also, they roll off the upper top.

Perhaps this is simply a system matching and taste issue. People often forget how important it is that components compliment the particular characteristics of the system.

You can change an interconnect and almost totally change the sound of the whole system, for example.