Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy


"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

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@tonywinga Let's see if I have this right, amir_asr has purely altruistic motives for reviewing and measuring equipment.  He has no credentials that I have seen for test and measuring nor has he shown any type of equipment certification.  If I am wrong, now is the time to show that.  I'm calling nonsense on this.  No one does something for nothing.  Whether he is feeding his ego gaining notoriety through controversy or is making a good sum of cash, he has a motive.  The fact that he himself admitted  he would not report on a $20,000 DAC that he claims had a flaw seems to go against his very agenda.  Are not all of his followers now at risk of spending their money on this flawed DAC?  It would seem that his own moral standards have been compromised by accepting equipment from manufacturers to test at no cost. That is different from testing other peoples equipment for them that they own.

Is altruism so uncommon in this forsaken hobby that you assume not a single person with knowledge of audio engineering would do something for nothing? It speaks volumes to your character that you assume people are not inherently good by nature. Would you appreciate such criticism if you were in his shoes? 

It's incredible how willing people on this site are to dismantle the character of someone through pure assumptions. Truly a disgrace of a place in my opinion.  

Now you are just blowing smoke.  Altruism doesn’t include character assassination of dissenters. 

@mitch2 I wholeheartedly agree with your statements.

But I insist that everyone has to agree and think the same on the ASR forums. 

You can learn from ASR members and their posts. True. 

 

@noske What I may lack in youthful exuberance and naivety, I make up for in wisdom and treachery. 

So buying cheap garbage that Amir (an old fart himself) is a badge of honor. Guess I will stay over here with the old guys that have disposable income and buy top shelf European and North American Class D Amplification that you can not afford. Clearly as you are complaining about a $750.00 CCP made DAC.

BTW bet my 5K time is lower than yours. 

@tonywinga  Amir_asr has the promise of uncovering bogus gear but falls short in terms of objectivity and fairness.  Fairness in terms of accepting that people can hear more than that can be measured.  Fairness in being able to counter a conclusion or debate it without a character assignation attack.  

Yes!!!  This is the premise of my forum.   Amir has no more credibility for his "reviews" or his ASR site than any other and is particularly distasteful to a contrary opinion, factual or not.  Character assassination attacks can get one a deleted post or even revoke a forum on Audiogon.