Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy


"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

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The hobbyists and audiophiles on this forum comprise people that are both highly intelligent and highly motivated.  Many have a background in music or audio or both.  These are creative people that can think beyond linear A to B.  This is the type of creativity that drives innovation and change.  Discovery and ideas almost always come before understanding.  

Now we have a guy with no credentials in either music or audio walking around with an ohmmeter claiming these people are deluding themselves.  Of course that is a trigger point.  Galileo was imprisoned by the Catholic Church for saying that the earth was round.  The leaders of the day had to protect the public from this "deluded" man.  They refused to accept other possibilities.  Technology has changed the world but some people never change.

There was a story in the early 1990s about GM hiring a former car thief to try to break into their new model car featuring the latest in anti-theft technology.  GM engineers were so confident in their newest anti-theft deterrents that they put a large timer on stage and unrehearsed had this former car thief attempt to break in and steal the car in front of an audience of car dealers.  The story goes that the former thief walked on stage with a sledgehammer and hit the front bumper.  The airbag deployed and the doors immediately unlocked.  The guy got in the car with a screwdriver and started the car.  The large timer showed just a few seconds had elapsed.  Yes, the engineers had egg on their face.  Linear thinking has its advantages but also has limitations.  

 

@amir_asr, the walls are still up at ASR which is fine. If you came here to learn about audio that’s fine. If you came here to defend your reputation that’s fine. But if you came here to start an argument about why you are perfect and we are not let’s just set that aside for your forum at ASR.

The walls are still up there, you have really not discussed anything about YOUR system, what you are trying to achieve, etc. When you say:

"But instead come here to complain, acting like you know more than whole of audio science."

It comes off like

"... acting like you know more than me (being Amir_ASR)"

and you are referring to yourself as being the whole of audio science.

You still have not shared anything about YOUR system. Is it perfect? What do you own, why did you buy it, what are you trying to achieve.

There is no need to feel shy, we won’t talk down to you if it is built with components that are more entry level. You will find that many of the members here start with where ever they are now, take the collective "experience" (not just data) of the members here and increase their enjoyment of the music. Have you participated in any threads here besides this one? I think you’ll enjoy it.

 

 

It is obvious that Amir does not want to learn. This is a pity as his appreciation of music could really grow. There are many people here who are more qualified than he is. However never mind. Some people are just very stubborn and inflexible.

"But instead come here to complain, acting like you know more than whole of audio science". There are many people here who know far more than you. Also we do not come "here". YOU came "here".

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