Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy


"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler

Going back to OP:

@fleschler 

 They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance. 

We give credence to anything that is described as soundwaves coming out of your audio gear. If your assessment of the above only happens when your eyes are looking at the gear as well as your ears, then no, we can't measure that as we are not instrumenting the visuals of audio gear.

Come back and show that the above characteristics survive "ear only" evaluation using blind controlled test and I will show you measurements that catch them.  Until then, please don't repeat audiophile folklore and worse yet, spend money toward them. 

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Amir what I meant by average is that there was no detail of the spread of listener preferences from which the type of listener average was calculated.That might have been quite an even and narrow bell curve or quite uneven and wide one.So it does not really show relative variability between individual listeners.It would also clarify why different people have different sonic preferences and for whom"accurate" might not be what they want at all.

 

@kota1 

@amir_asr , I think the perception about ASR being a cash grab is a legitimate question. You do ban members with views that don't conform, you do pass the plate in every review, and as you often say yourself, you are a dealer and that visitors to ASR should read as much bias as you like into your posts. I get that the perception may be different from the reality but it is a legitimate question.

Now, are you finally going to tell us about your system, what you bought, why you like it, what you are trying to achieve?

I have addressed that question multiple times now. If you still don't understand the answer, that is more on you than me.

As to my system, you can see a brief overview and pictures in this review thread: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-lyngdorf-roomperfect-eq.6799/

I am not here to write you essays about why I bought it. Nor do I walk around constantly talking about my system. 

@fleschler

Going back to OP:

If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money.

There is no denying this as true, it even continues in this thread right now with the "financially independent" as he calls himself @amir_asr lecturing us about money and audio. It never ends, unless uhhh what was that about someones pockets?