Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy

"And I say that you are also biased because you see the measurements and then listen."

Ah, you want me to be uninformed when I do my listening tests.  As if not seeing the measurements somehow eliminate bias?  Seeing the gear, etc. is not a concern of yours but accurate measurements are?  Instead of typing, here is a video I produced on this very topic:

"I wonder if you spend a lot of time measuring the equipment, how much you time would you enjoy listening to music."

Why do you wonder?  What possible thing I have written that makes you wonder?  Did I share a diary with you that showed no music listening?  

I listen to tons of music.  I am retired so I have all the time in the world.  Even when I am measuring, I am listening to music.

@milpai 

I don't throw rocks and I don't want you to answer anything. Just stop telling folks that measurements tell you everything. 

You just "wondered" if I listen to music.  That didn't require answering?

That aside, you are the one saying "measurements tell you everything," not me. I have repeatedly stated that half of my reviews including listening tests.  I also use other techniques like Null testing with real music.  I have said that controlled listening test are the gold standard.  Why isn't this message sinking in?

But yes, there is no denying of the power of measurements.  They cut through audio folklore like butter.  Company claims this and that tweak reduces noise?  Well, we darn well know how to measure noise even if they don't.  They say this and that lowers jitter?  Well, we measure that every day of the week and twice on Sunday.  Company says that this and that design produces the most transparent sound?  Well, if distortions and noise are not competitive, then sure as heck does not do that.

When you get sick, you don't want your doctor to take your temperature and blood pressure on the fear that "he thinks measurements are everything."  Measurements do not have to be everything to be incredibly useful and powerful..  Go without them at your own peril.

@dducat ,

Aside from going to war with some very reputable equipment makers, people who are directly accountable vs. a faceless brand of high-end gear and Amir and his minions claim a wide variety of skills and capabilities but literally don't know what they're measuring, how they're measuring it / how to use the tools they have and what their measurements actually mean.

Perhaps you would like to expand on who these companies are that ASR went to war over? Do you mean GR Research?   You claim that ASR does not know what to measure, how to use their equipment, or how to interpret the results. Then you make a comment about a single speaker and an anechoic chamber.  If you are going to jump in on this character assassination, shouldn't you know what you are saying?  It took me about 5 minutes of reading the first speaker review on ASR to know they don't use an anechoic chamber. They do not need one. It took maybe 10 minutes to understand why Amir uses a single speaker. Perhaps if you ask him he will tell you.

This is not adult banter @nonoise , this is an out and out attempted character assassination. It is not done in jest.

Finally this:

You have a degree in electrical engineering field and that is awesome. Kudos to you. But neural sciences and the other fields doing research are not your forte. You seem to portray on your site that measurements are the end-all. I disagree on that with you.

I managed the signal processing group at Microsoft which relies hugely on psychoacoustics.  I know what I need to know about perception of audio.  No knowledge of "neural science" is needed, nor do any of you have any.

As to ASR, it is clear you have not spent much time there.  We have a ton of luminaries there in audio discussing every aspect of audio. It is not just me.  

So disagree all you want.  But don't mischaracterize me or the forum.