Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy


"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler
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Fleschler,There are some regular posters on ASR who are quite patient and civil .However some are just arrogant and aggressive and intolerant of different perspectives and they also happen to be moderators.They are also all Americans.It did occur to me that might just be a sad reflection of how bipartisan and divided that society has become.I have American friends who have related how pervasive and toxic that "us and them' attitude has become and how glad they are to be out of it.It certainly comes as a bit of a shock to those that are not used to it.

 

 

@crymeanaudioriver  You are in league with Amir.  I have no qualms about Amir's ASR testing equipment site.  That's his business.  I detest anyone who perverts a neutral statement I make into something that attacks another's character for that reason.  This is what ASR minions and now Amir on THIS SITE has done!!!   He has personally perverted what I did not do for his own jollies.  He is an evil person.  It is called Defamation. 

His malicious and unjustified harming of a person's good reputation.  That's me.

"all too often they discredit themselves by engaging in character assassination"  That's Amir (just like his site).

Notice, he keeps posting more virulent posts.  

 

@crymeanaudioriver

"A lot of us like a good Cabernet, but some like it drier and some like it with a bit of residual sugar. If you tell me it is super dry like an Arizona desert in the summer, and Amir’s test equipment says no, it is quite sweet, with a specific number that represents sweeter than 50% of all Cabernets, who is right? (The correct answer is Amir)."

This comment is so wrong it is not funny and shows you know absolutely nothing about wine.  Ask an MW what they think about this if you do not believe me. If this comment is an indication of similar knowledge about audio equipment, then I suggest you either read, listen and learn a lot more or go back to ASR and stay there.

@jtgofish I mentioned two such ASR member posters who appear quite reasonable (one who has gotten lambasted like me) and another who posts but no one appears to confront him. I’m sure there are others. Note that my disagreements are character assassination based, defamation, not with his ASR business practices which I may disagree on but are perfectly legal (unlike posters who want to put high end manufacturers in prison for allegedly defrauding the public). So, it’s not us versus them in my forum, but defamation (the taking of a person’s good name is almost like killing them) and lack of transparency while uttering unsupported or undersupported assertations of equipment quality.  Now this is not just most ASR members but Amir himself who commits defamation of character.