Upsampling, Can there be too much?


I've owned the Chord Mscaler for a year and loved it, but recently added two new components that have built in upsampling: The Aurender W20SE, and the Jay's Audio CDT3-MK3. I find the Mscaler works well with the Aurender's built in upsampling, but not the Jay's.

 

Conclusion: not upsampling the Jay's, and standard redbook 16-bit 44Khz to the Mscaler gives incredible 24-bit 705Khz to the Hugo TT2 DAC for finest sound.

 

With multiple upsamplers in a chain has anyone gotten static, popping, smearing, or any kind of distortion from too much upsampling?

128x128brandonhifi

I used to own the lowest model of Audio Note UK DAC,. I can't recall the model, but it used tiny tubes that were soldered in. It was a revelation at the time. I now have an Audio Note Kits 2.1 Signature, professionally built and upgraded by them a few months ago. I would not go back to a design that uses oversampling, unless it was a dcs or something of that caliber, which I could never afford.

After using oversampling players for years, the non-oversampling sounded much more natural and fluid. At the level that I can afford, it sounds more like the real event coming through the speakers rather than a cobbled together re-creation. I can't imagine how good the top-level Audio Note DAC's are. 

The issue with the Jay's was because a loose cable, completely solved, worked with Alvin from Beatechnik, Jay's Audio official dealer, and got it fixed, upsampling stacks perfectly now from CDT3-MK3 to Chord Mscaler to Chord Hugo TT2. 

 

One of the hardest things for me in HiFi especially using power conditioning and LIFEPO4 batteries for half your components it tight secure wiring. I even use the best Gotham quad shielded cables from Ghent Audio and still.... LOL what a journey HiFi is. Funnest hobby in the universe.

 

What differences do you hear when you rip a cd to the Aurender vs play on the Jays?

@vonhelmholtz 

Excellent question, and honestly I'm still in the midst of the first week of constant comparison of that very thing. But from several days of critical listening I can say without any doubt the physical CD on the flagship Jay's is superior. I even have the 4 thousand dollar Transparent XL BNC on the W20SE, but the few thousand dollar less expensive cable Wave Storm BNC on the Jay's.

The physical transport is in everyway more detailed, tonally more rich and fuller and deeper sounding. I can't say instrument separation is better because the W20SE is masterful at that also. But after correcting the loose cable issue, like finding a needle in a haystack in my rig, The Jay's Audio CDT3-MK3 is nothing less than magical. Everything I play through it, if well recorded, because it is perfectly revealing, but if well recorded, is jaw dropping. Sometimes this last week I'll just sit in my listening chair and grin ear to ear because never in my life have I heard anything that good even in all my high end hi fi shops in Minneapolis, USA.

 

 

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@brandonhifi 

I didn't want that response.  All 6 conditioning channels on my Everest are taken.