Rolling Mullard 6DJ8 into GE 5670 Application

I would ask the manufacturer or the distributor before I would ask here. I recently considered a different brand tube DAC that ran the same tube. I searched on line and saw the adapter and the recommended 5670 replacement tube. In my situation the E88CC was not compatible nor was the 6DJ8. Also in rolling that value tube ( I have a significant stash of nos ), the Mullard was dark and veiled and not to my liking. I realize YMMV , but I had better results with Tekefunken, Siemens CCA, Tungsram, and Tesla. Even the better Russian tubes beat the Mullard. I have dabbled with Rogue gear and they recommend Mullard, but it’s generally used to tame a harsh sound. Although the premium NOS Mullards are well received. But I’d really verify compatibility as I guess it’s not. Also in searching that topic the Westinghouse did seem to be the most poplar substitute. And the price is reasonable. Finding and buying premium medical grade Telefunkens is expensive and ugly these days. I worship my black coated G73-R’s . And I really do like Mullards for a rectifier or power tube. Happy Listening, Mike B. 

Prior to posting I did reach out directly to Maverick Audio and also Andrew at Sparkos Labs since I put his op amps in it.

When I purchased the DAC it has the GE JAN 5670 tube (upgrade from Maverick), then I rolled in the Western Electric 396A that some recommended as an upgrade along with the Sparkos Labs op amps that were a significant upgrade.  I didn't hear much if any difference with the switch from GE to WE tubes.  I think the tube is a buffer in the DAC, so it's very possible that the Mullard would yield little difference as well.

I do have Focal speakers, so some would consider them to be bright/harsh which may be why the Mullard sound great in my Pathos.  The person that recommended and sold them to me was very clear that his preference is very warm and the Mullard were the warmest he could find.  When I made the switch the improvement sort of defied logic in that it was a warmer sound, but also more detailed and just an improvement in every way over the hodgepodge that I had before.  I've briefly tried some of the "stock" tubes (can't think of the name off hand) and they were awful and came back out almost immediately.

I’ll be interested in your results. I have an amp that uses 6DJ8. I am currently using WE 396A with an adapter. I have never tried the Mullards.

I will say that I’ve found the red tip Russian 6N5P to be a pretty good option you might roll in sometime.

Jerry

there are many many many 6dj8’s and equivalents... it was a popular tube, used in many applications, consumer, commercial and military, and was made all around the world up to the point where tubes were supplanted with solid state devices in the 80's and 90's

if the tube is in fact in the audio circuit of the op’s dac in a meaningful way as @lewm mentions, there will be many many different sonic presentations available through rolling different 6dj8’s

i still have hundreds (no exaggeration) of old stock 6dj8 variant tubes, made in usa, uk, holland, hungary, japan, india, slovakia, russia and so on... as i used conrad johnson linestages for many years, and they exclusively ran that tube in their better models for 20 years

Based on the additional info it sounds like you’re on the right path. My system tends to be bright and I’ve avoided any silver in my interconnects to correct that problem. The tube “ Sound “ description on the Brent Jesse site is extremely accurate. My pre uses 12AU7’s and the sonic change is very similar to the E88CC change in my power amp. I was fortunate enough to be in your position some years back and nos tubes were not at astronomical prices. My experience with the German tubes is an improvement across the entire spectrum and that appealed to me. It has also been a plus to have a selection to roll with. I recently tried some KT 150’s for the first time and after some break in, wasn’t feeling it. So I rolled in the hottest rectifier tube I had ( a Mullard ). Now I had too much bass , so I changed the E88CC from a Tekefunken to Amperex to bump up the treble. In retrospect I’ve managed to be able to really tune my systems sound by tube rolling, but like stated above I acquired a bunch of tubes. It’s been a pricey but fun experience. Unfortunately I’ve had to attend Tube Addicts Anonymous after my wife saw my credit card charges. 😆 But seriously, Happy Hunting and good luck, Mike.