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Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy

"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

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crymeanaudioriver
101 posts
 

@noske ,  "Fanaticism is always a sign of repressed doubt. ~Carl Jung"

noske
783 posts
 

@cleeds

That’s interesting. "Satisfaction guaranteed or your money back" is a common guarantee in the US, although often with a time limit.

Not really interesting. Consumer law guarantees certain rights to both vendor and buyer which cannot be denied for a year, maybe two.

The statement you quoted is a business decision by the vendor - time limit 30 days or so? Who pays for all the fuses that are returned within that time period, because they didn’t like them?

Either you make a product that people wanna keep for the duration of their expected lives, or refund them if it is faulty.  Not simply because ya tried and didn't like - that is such an expensive business decision whereby the consumer takes on the risks of other consumers before him who were didn't like the fuse.

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cleeds
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noske

Consumer law guarantees certain rights to both vendor and buyer which cannot be denied for a year, maybe two.

Not in the US. It's perfectly legal to offer a "cash and carry, as-is, no refund" policy.

crymeanaudioriver
101 posts
 

My My …

“ But if you want us to stay away from this site, then don’t create a thread with such falsehoods and continue to repeat the same.“

Only a totally  self absorbed Narcissist would be so stupidly vain enough to admit to his and his familiars raison dêtre in posting on this forum.

 

What warped sense of morality do you have where someone defending themselves from falsehoods and lies is the bad guy?

crymeanaudioriver
101 posts
 

The statement you quoted is a business decision by the vendor - time limit 30 days or so? Who pays for all the fuses that are returned within that time period, because they didn’t like them?

With a margin of likely well over 1000%, I don't think some returns or even a lot of returns is an issue. Even 50% would be totally acceptable.

 

Either you make a product that people wanna keep for the duration of their expected lives, or refund them if it is faulty.  Not simply because ya tried and didn't like - that is such an expensive business decision whereby the consumer takes on the risks of other consumers before him who were didn't like the fuse.

 

Amazon's return rate I think is close to 20%.

 

 

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