Primaluna or not Primaluna


Hej

I have been hesitated some time now between buying new speakers or a new amplifier and have decided I will buy a new amplifier.

My list of demands:
It will take EL34, KT77, KT88 and 6550. Bonus if it takes KT120.
It will give at least 35 w with EL34 and 45 w with KT88.
It will have easy biasing using a screwdriver and with somekind of build in meter. In worst case autobiase will do.
It will use tube rectification and not solid state rectification (because I have heard solid state rectification takes away the tube sound).
It will not cost more than aprox $4000.


I have had a Line Magnetic LM-34IA once but had to much problems with the quality (bad solderings and bad balance between left and right).
First I thought it sounded quite good, but after have heard a Audion Audio Stirling EL34 SET amplifier I changed my mind. Now the LM-34AI sounded just OK.
I was told that Stirling EL34, with 12 w should be enough for listening at normal volumes with my 89dB speakers. But it was not. So here I am…
(And yes I know; a push-pull amp will never sound as a SET amp).


I have read about several amplifiers but none of them seems to fit my demands.

Here are my notes:
Line Magnetic LM-88IA   -   Just KT88. Bad experience with LM, both quality and sound.
Audio Research I/50   -   Just 6550 tubes. Too much hassle when adjusting bias.
Rogue Cronus Magnum III   -   Very mixed opinions. Solid state rectification.
Raven Blackhawk Mk 3.1   -   Just 6L6 tubes. Have to be imported from the US.
Tsakiridis Aelos Plus   -  Just KT88 tubes.
Fezz Silver Luna Prestige   -   Just EL34 tubes.
Fezz Titania   -   Just KT120 tubes (and maybe KT150 and KT170 too).
Cary SLI-80HS   -   Many bad opinions. Solid state rectification.
Jadis   -   Either too weak or too expencive.
Primaluna   -   ???

What makes me a little ”worried” is that Primaluna has so many build in features which are supposed to make my life as a tube amplifier owner easier.
I mean, doesn’t these fetures affect the sound? ”Less is more”?

 

If you have any thoughts or experience about this, please let me know.

simna

Wow...if that Zen TORII Mk 5 sounds half as good as it looks it must be heaven for a music lover.

But will it really be enough for my 89dB speakers? At least they claims that.

And I have my eyes on Duevel Venus speakers too. They are at 88dB, 4 ohm and I've read that they need atleast, in a small room, 30-40 w. But maybe it's "ordinary solid state watts";)

@grinnell 
What speaker do you have with the Decware?

But will it really be enough for my 89dB speakers? At least they claims that.
 

If you listen loud then the PL is probably better, and if it is quiet maybe you could get by with less watts.

 

@holmz 

Why would you sell your Primaluna for a class D amp if you think Primaluna sounds good? They sound quite different, don't they?

We have a HT set up as well, so the tubes are not really needed for that.
And the good Class-D seems like it is pretty good.

The PL is good, but I do not know your speakers, and speakers make a bigger difference than amps… generally.

My speakers are Tannoy Legacy Eaton.

So you said, but I still don’t know them.

 

It will use tube rectification and not solid state rectification (because I have heard solid state rectification takes away the tube sound).

I am sure you’ve heard that, I am not sure it is true though.

 

4k is a lot of money though.
I’d personally be more tempted to get a TDAI-1120 or a set of active speakers, unless the room is in pretty deadened shape already.

The PL is pretty easy though, you just run the cables and it sounds good.
I got a set of KT120s - but did not put them in yet. It sounds fine with the 8x EL34s.

Might want to consider Quicksilver in California. Also PM “ Hilde45 “, as he is one of their many owners, is forward thinking and is a great source of information based on actual experience. Cheers , Mike B. @  Hilde45