Cable burn in


Hi all. I’m guessing that what I’m experiencing is pretty normal. But it can’t hurt to get some feedback. I purchased a DMS-650 from Cary Audio which is a DAC/Streamer. Since hifi folks have highly opinionated views on cables, nothing is included with the unit. So when I set it up, I had to scramble and I found the three conductor cable that came with a cheap Sony DVD player. Then I replaced that RCA interconnect with a much better quality Blue Jeans cable. Initially the increase in quality was apparent and obviously worth it. However the sound could be hasrsh on certain recordings. Various tracks had a harshness that wasn’t there before. I’ve been playing internet radio during the day for burn in. Now that harshness has vanished. Sitting down to listen last night, things were actually too warm. Some tracks sounded almost muddy. The sparkle was diminished in an obvious way. I am guessing that once burn is complete the sound will settle happily in the middle somewhere. Is that a reasonable assumption?  I’m also likely going to order power cables and an interconnect from Audio Envy or maybe some other companies to compare. The guy who sold me the Cary Audio gear is not a salesy guy, but he did pretty emphatically recommend some higher quality cables. 

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Now there’s a pile of blah blah yes typical accessible copy/paste. Great debate format… meaning nothing. Yes we’ve learned a thing or two in the last 100 years Producing a cell phone then might’ve had you stoned for witchcraft. Yes finding someone with wave form papers Stapled to his ears might be rare, easier to find 99999….or so that can’t hear the mythical differences. Agreed, Facts have no expiration date… let’s ‘Hear’ some !!  Burn in blow hard aside this was fun. 😂

A cable is a mechanical system that needs burn-in. Every material subject to an electrical field creates a dipole. For non conducting material this dipole is at the atom level so that electrons are more to the side of nucleus that randomly around. The overall charge of the material remains neutral.  The electrons having a mass (very very light), moving them around amounts to a mechanical action.

The atoms in the cable insulation get organized in a dipole one way or the other, when ever there is signal traveling in the wires. As the burn in progress the atoms dipoles get organized from a random state, so that less energy is extracted from the signal and more of it reaches the next component in the chain.

 

Well, I repeat again, EVERY electron I ever interviewed had very specific attitudes about how they chose to travel on top of wires that WENT THE WRONG WAY, or were NEW, or were made of out materials mined in Communist countries.

You should not take my word for it.  Interview the electrons traveling on top of the metal in YOUR cables and see what THEY say.

Cheers!

I think step 1 is to understand that recordings and the delivery systems are like fingerprints, no 2 alike. They are all different. I think with streaming the problem is there is no way to know where the source implemented is coming from or who was responsible for the mastering. At least with cd's and vinyl, there is path to find out: Usually if a name like, Doug Sax, Steve Hoffmann, Bob Ludwig, Professor Johnson Shawn Briiton, or Bernie Grundman are attached and the source is guaranteed to be from an original master tape, the results, from my experience should be uniformly excellent. My advice would to seek out music from these masters of audio & use these recordings in your evaluations: Anything else, you are wasting your time and worrying about nothing. Good luck & try to enjoy the music without getting to obsessed with cables. I cannot give a definitive answer about cable burn but I do think the brain needs burn when a change is inserted in middle of your system. 

+1 to @richopp , as I have a personal autograph from Eddy Electron. Rich my tag to you is only in regards to Eddy as I appreciated your share. Eddys the man ! To the rest , We’ve all voiced our opinions and I respect everyone here. My personal experience is I’ve heard SQ differences more times than not with wire. I’ve experienced SQ changes related to “ break in “ most of the time. For example my Morrow cables took significantly longer to settle in Vs my Anti Cables. Back when I was hanging out with Eddy Electron in the early 70’s I had the cheap plastic red, white, yellow IC’s and bought bulk 120v lamp cord for speaker wire. Then I built some insulated IC’s with shielded coax. There was a noise rejection improvement, especially with my TT. Now today I believe in cables, but I’m cautious of marketing BS and diminishing returns on mega expensive gear. I just don’t have the income to support the exotic aspect of this hobby. So I run mid level Morrow and mid Level Audioquest, because that’s all I can afford. But my ears don’t lie, and I don’t project my OPINION, only my experience. I’m not an electrical engineer, but I had 4 years of electronics In JR/ High school. I’ve built numerous stereo kits, tube and SS, as well as speaker enclosures. I’m not as smart as most of you, but I’m willing to experiment and trust my ears. Happy Listening my brothers and thanks for sharing.