"Or just to lord it over others… to be used as a social signalling tool." Really? I know no one who does this.
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@crymeanaudioriver @amir_asr You are sitting there worrying if this or that other useless tweak like a cable makes a sonic difference.
I don’t worry about my equipment unless it fails. I never worry about tweaks or cables. The last time I had to choose a cable was after I purchased my first DAC and transport in 2019. I auditioned six and chose one, the Synergistic Research Atmosphere X Euphoria. Why would someone with as fulfilling a life as me worry about cables or tweaks and it is in YOUR mind that they are USELESS.
@prof "would it be safe to say you are not an electrical designer or electrical engineer? If so, under what authority do you make the following comment" - concerning creating a high end DAC out of a mediocre DAC.
Well, I have such a DAC, built by a manufacturer of equipment and cables for his and my use. It beat out a $9,000 COS Engineering D1v and $5,000 D2v by a longshot. It is comparable to an $23,000 Meridian Ultradac. Because I tried all the latter three in comparison I say this with some authority, the authority of a recording engineer (me), a manufacturer (friend) and many audiophiles who have heard the same and came to the same conclusion.
Another DAC with excellent design engineer and inferior execution is the Emotiva XDA-2. No new audio board but 7! audiophile quality regulators instead of the computer grade junk inside, similar high end power and filter caps, resistors, etc. to make this into a high end DAC on the very cheap ($400 new plus about the same in added parts).
@russ69 We must be neighbors. I frequented Woodland Hills Audio Center back in the 70s and 80s. I heard several of Arnie’s speakers including a the large Infinity speakers in a home.
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@laoman @holmz Unfortunately, this is sometimes true. As a commercial real estate appraiser, I was chosen to appraise high value homes in 1986-7 in Malibu, Rolling Hills Estates, Beverly Hills, Bradbury, etc. I noted in another forum long ago about some totally ridiculous high end audio equipment poorly placed for the purpose of playing music but looking good. An example is a 30"' high entry foyer which could be a living room in Malibu with a pair of Martin Logan electrostats (Monolith model) stuck half-way up the walls facing each other, flush mounted in carved out balconies. I've thrown the photos away decades ago but that represents something wrong in a then $8 million home. My cable manufacturing friend has lost many potential customers because when they find out the price of his cables, they say they could not be high end because they are too inexpensive. Yes, some people equate price and/or brand name with quality. Some use their systems as to make a deliberate or pretentious display of their accomplishments and wealth. I've seen it (and several times suffered in hearing those systems). |
They probably should have consider naming Malibu after the Bradbury book F451…
Usually when I see the blue VUs it is a statement peice. And a TT and tube amps are also what people used before FB in order to signal that they had reached a level of disposable income. TV shows and movies often show this, and it speaks volumes.
Sad or not, it is a fact. People like to signal to others. And it is easy with some gear to do that pretty effectively.
A stack of grey NAD gear can sound pretty good, but it doesn’t have the pull that high $ gear does for making a statement. ARC also makes a pretty strong statement… but it generally sounds good.
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@laoman I have a lower cost (about $80K), high end system at the lower end because of my speakers, which although wonderful to listen to, do not reflect the full quality of the system (basically ambiance retrieval and listening area width). My wife and I went bonkers using my LPs and a CD at local audio shows when we heard the Von Schweikert Ultra 11 and 9. But it was with $1+ million support system. I wouldn’t want either of those for my smaller room. I would prefer the Ultra 7 which is efficient, smaller and passive. I will not pay $170K for those speakers unless my investments pay off big time ($millions) as I’m already 66 similar in price as your Borresen wish. Hopefully, I will acquire the VS VR9 SE mkII speakers somewhere between $35K and $50K fully updated in the near (2-3 year) future. I heard a smaller 02 or 03 Borresen speaker this year in much too large a room (conference size) and it sounded small. The 05 would have been a better choice. I found it a waste of money to use high end audio gear as furnishings. One system had only McIntosh gear, some of it unconnected, sad. |
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