Audio Science Review = Rebuttal and Further Thoughts

@holmz

Cable risers also make a statement, but I would personally avoid them in my system.

I’ve often thought ASR is missing out on awesome merch possibilities by not releasing a line of Pink Panther™ cable risers.

We aren't trying to replicate what you hear with a machine. What we hear is subjective to each of us, listeners are the ultimate arbiter of preference. Whether your preferences are based on concrete objective changes of machines, active or passive,   or your inherent biases, we can determine if that person "cannot accept the truth of something because it is so far outside their personal experience or prejudices that it’s literally unbelievable." 

re: "signaling" - a big rack of shiny new mcintosh with $10k+ speakers poorly placed might be an example on the 'i'm really rich' side of audio. but if there's anything i've learned online, one can 'signal' their smartness, their coolness, their pride, or whatever it is they're interested in conveying in any number of different ways. for example, one can signal their audio 'wisdom' by buying all of the best measuring gear, regardless of how it sounds. 

as for 'lording it over' people, there are certainly some snobs out there. but those guys are mostly irrelevant. i'm sure their systems sound great or whatever, but literally no one with a life of their own cares how much you spent on your hi fi - we're too busy listening to music (and maybe plotting out upgrades) on our own. same goes for 'i know everything about audio because i'm an engineer' types. like, ok man, good for you. sure, yeah, whatever, i'm very impressed with your credentials. but i'm on my own path. you don't need to worry about what i'm doing. we don't even like the same music, why should i care what you think? etc etc

@td_dayton 

i'm very impressed with your credentials. but i'm on my own path. you don't need to worry about what i'm doing. we don't even like the same music, why should i care what you think? etc etc

No one is suggesting for one minute that you (or anyone else) has to.

The important thing is that the data is out there and available.

The rest is entirely up to the individual whether they want to make any use of it.

The same goes for published online and magazine reviews.

When someone is seated at the piano, we are generally not debating whether person A is hearing a piano and person B is hearing an organ or a flute. There is little debate and imagination as to a piano being a real thing, and its sound being a real thing.

They do imagine it. Our senses are imaginary at a very basic level. That’s why a machine doesn’t replicate what we “hear.

And hence the measurements tell us how closely a playback of say a piano sounds like, say… a real piano.

We do not care whether person B hears a piano sounding like flute, we only care that it is replicated correctly.

To talk about brains and personal experiences is delving into psychology and neuroscience, whereas the playback system is electromechanical. We have to draw the line somewhere.

To talk about subjective differences in hearing, is burying one’s head in the sand as to the reality of what is happening.
That thinking belongs in a course on philosophy and not in engineering or physics, and hence it belongs in a coffee house and not in an audio shop or engineering laboratory.