Speaker upgrade

 

I completely understand. I was in the exact same boat. But before you can determine what is used, you have to understand what good parts are for a crossover first. I have owned the Aviors and have owned several pairs of Wilsons. They all use decent but cheap parts. They are OK parts but far, far, far away from the best parts.

Once you hear a speaker with copper foil caps, Mills wire wound resistors and high quality inductors your jaw will drop.

This statement is proof enough that you have no clue what you’re speaking of, that and you likely haven’t owned speakers anywhere near the caliber of Aviors. Rockport actually customizes the crossover of each individual speaker to account for the minute differences of each individual driver, so no two pair of speakers will have the exact same inductor/cap specs. The benefit of this should far exceed that of merely using the most expensive/boutique parts money can buy.

A good speaker is more than the sum of high quality parts.

I almost bought some Tyler H3.5's and probably would have liked them. Tyler's speakers are still at the top of my list that i would like to hear though I'd prefer to hear Tyler's designs if he does some himself.  I have owned numerous of Danny's speakers though I wasn't aware they were designed by him for many of them. They were great and i had one pair in my main system over 10 years.  Nothing against Danny, but at some point I wanted to hear someone else's influence.  If you want heft, dynamics, and loudness,  I recommend my current favorite,  KEF 107's. For my tastes also detailed yet smooth. I've only had them for 1 year, but they continue to impress me every day.  Best I've owned in 30 year search. I was willing to and did spend much more,  but landed on these.  They're great for jazz and rock, but that really depends on whether or not you like their sound signature. They're the only speakers my girlfriend got upset about when she thought I was going to sell them, so I guess I have to keep them. 

another thread that's over 50% BS in the comments

@helomech, first you have educate yourself as to what the best high quality best performing parts are. Once you comprehend this, and know how to recognize them, then as mentioned before, don't take my word for it, pull the woofer out and take a look for yourself. Do you see copper foil caps int their crossovers? No. Do you see foil inductors in their Crossovers? No, Do you see Mills wire wound resistors in their crossovers? No.   

Agree, Rockport and others spend lots of time selecting parts for their crossovers, but they are all inexpensive parts. Sum up the total cost of these parts, and it may surprise you.

Why not offer a model with the best parts, At this price point folks would pay more for what they completely unaware of what they are missing. 

Once you hear the same speakers with the ultimate parts, you can't go back. 

@johnss

You’re presuming the most expensive parts result in the best performance. This is often not the case. I’ve heard speakers that used iron-core inductors and electrolytic caps on the woofer section outperform speakers employing air-core inductors/and high end poly caps. If the drivers used in the former are better than those of the latter, that will far exceed the quality difference in crossover parts. The vast majority of speaker distortion comes from the drivers and cabinet design, not the crossover parts. There is as much voodoo BS in the crossover part industry as there is in cables—many lofty claims with little or zero data to back it up.

Maybe you should mention some specific speaker models that you claim outperform the likes of Rockport Aviors. We’d all like to know just what we need to audition to hear what we’re missing. 😆