Wow, a lot's been going on since I've been on. @holmz Fantastic measurements of the the Kento Carbon speaker which received glowing reviews. $40K is near my max to spend on speakers. I've got to hear them. Thanks!
Nearly all manufacturers do not advertise/exhibit their product measurements? Why?
After my Audio Science Review review forum, it became apparent that nearly the only way one can determine the measurements of an audio product is wait for a review on line or in a publication. Most equipment is never reviewed or is given a subjective analysis rather than a measurement oriented review. One would think that manufacturers used tests and measurements to design and construct their products.
Manufacturers routinely give the performance characteristics of their products as Specifications. Those are not test measurements.
I searched the Revel speaker site for measurements of any of their speakers and could not find any. Revels are universally lauded for their exceptional reviewed measurements. Lack of published manufacturer measurements is true for nearly every speaker manufacturer I've searched for on line, perhaps several hundred. Same is true for amps, pre-amps, DACs, transports, turntables, well you get the picture. Do they have something to hide? I doubt the good quality products have anything to hide but poor quality products do.
ASR prides itself in providing "true" measurements that will aid in purchase decisions. Why don't the manufacturers provide these measurements so that reviewers can test if they are truthful or not?
Then there are the cables and tweaks for which I suspect that there are inadequate tests available to measure sonically perceived differences but which objectivists believe don't exist or are "snake oil."
Well, please chime in if you have some illuminating thoughts on the subject.
I would have loved to see manufacturers measurements on my equipment and especially those that I rejected.
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@amir_asr , I did the "blind test" as you posted, that’s it. The $250 is refundable, no risk: https://shop.mapleshadestore.com/Exchanges-Returns_ep_41-1.html So, I already posted the specs for the interconnects listed in my virtual profile, along with my active speakers. Here is the testing data for my Auralex Geofusors: https://auralex.com/diffusion-testing-data-geofusor-tfusor/ and the specs: https://auralex.com/content/productdocuments/GeoFusor_ProductDocumentation.pdf Aurlalex is pretty good about posting specs. All we get from you is more hot air.... Still waiting...🙄 |
As to absolutes on interconnect cable design. During the past several decades, GroverHuffman cables has removed metal casings and replaced them with high quality plastic casings with excellent contact areas for soldering. No ferrites ever used. His speaker wire is not limited by short lengths. I am using his 6' cables on my video and second audio system and 16' (former home-30') lengths on the main system. The cables are not test measured for these aspects. They just sound better. There is nothing wrong with using multiple ears (now 1000's of sales) to confirm the results of the advancements in his cabling. |
Why is it that people who have least amount of familiarity with audio science the ones that judge others to not have any such knowledge? If I asked you how many research papers you have read the answer would be close to zero, right? If I asked you if you have any professional experience in audio, the answer would be zero, right? If I asked you if you have ever had a mentor who knows audio science, the answer would be zero, right? Why do you do this? I answer: because audio science doesn't agree with what you have taught yourself from random individuals online, or improperly conducted listening test evaluations. Show some emotional maturity in this regard. Most of equipment I test at ASR forum come from members. Out of the entire set of what I test, I only recommend about 1/3 of it. The rest just don't perform. Yet the people who send them to me are still happy to have done so and like the fact that they finally have some reliable data about their gear. The move on with optimizing their system that way and routinely wind up with more performance at much less cost. |
Folks sell ointments online to grow hair with money back guarantee. That doesn't mean I am going to go and buy them to try and I hope you are not either. They are hoping that you procrastinate and get stuck with the thing whether it performs or not. It is the oldest trick in the book for mail order/online selling. And it is not free either. You are not only responsible for return shipping, you must also insure it and go through the hassle of boxing and sending it back. On top of that, they could complain about it not getting to them, being damaged, etc.: " We strongly encourage customers to send product returns using a shipping method that is both trackable and fully insured. It is your responsibility to ensure the returned item arrives to us undamaged. Mapleshade will not accept responsibility for returned items that are lost or damaged during shipping. Once received, we will process your return promptly. Then we will issue your refund or credit -- or ship your exchange item as has been prearranged." Really, stop acting as PR person for companies and start to advocate for consumer rights here. Demand that they provide measurements of two audio gear, one with their cable and one with a generic one. See if the output of your audio system actually changes. Don't fall for empty claims for the cable. You don't stick a digital cable into your ear and listen. You listen to the output of your system. And to be clear, there is no way, no how that digital cable improves the sound of your system -- with or without break in. I will donate $1,000 to your favorite charity if you can properly demonstrate otherwise. |
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