Open Baffle Experience


Much has been said about open baffles, including an epic website by the late, great Dr. Linkwitz but I've only heard them really once, playing absolutely garbage music (thanks Pure Audio!) at a hotel.

I'm talking here about dynamic drivers in single baffles without enclosures, not ESLs or Magneplanar type systems.

I'm curious who has had them, and who kept them or went back to "conventional" boxes?

I'm not really looking to buy speakers, but I did start thinking about this because of a kit over at Madisound made with high quality drivers.

 

 

erik_squires

kenjit Its apparent that there is something you don't understand.

It has to do with the human ear/brain system.

When the ear hears a sound, a copy of the sound is made and the ear/brain system looks for other examples in near-time. If it finds an example that is delayed by about 10 mS or so, it can use that for echo-location.

That sounds a bit like a Helmholz radiator?

 

Let’s see here — on the dipole side we have Nola, Vandersteen, Spatial, Magnepan, Martin Logan, SoundLabs, etc, and on the other side we have…kenjit.  Hmmm.  I for one would love to see kenjit debate the great minds behind all these very successful speaker designs.  That’d be a real hoot.

I doubt it would be a hoot.

A debate is not just about being impassioned about the topic.
One actually needs to provide some compelling argument.

 

Yes I do believe that the back wave needs to be in correct polarity as front. As you know, aboslute polarity is inaudible but with an open baffle, you have both waves occuring simultaneously. It is difficult to avoid the consequent cancellations unless you physically separate the two waves. That is the whole point of having a box

You kinda cannot have it both ways… where you:

  1. Argue that the polarity out the front is inaudible and doesn’t matter.
  2. Argue that the polarity out of the back is suddenly of utmost importance… and more important that the polarity out of the front.

I mean you can argue that, it is just hard to abide it as a rational argument that is anything more than “Like your opinion dude.”

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@erik_squires I attracted a ban on another form overnight.
I think it was for a personal insulting against the company Topping.
Which I suppose makes sense as companies and ships and airplanes, identify as “people” according to the law.

And there is no honest way to comment on the Scooby-Doo without attracting a ban.

And I cannot send a MSG on AG, as I get an endless “Q&A” to identify as a person with hot air balloons… crosswalks and traffic lights.

 

Let;s just say it is baffleing 

Let’s see here — on the dipole side we have Nola, Vandersteen, Spatial, Magnepan, Martin Logan, SoundLabs, etc, and on the other side we have…kenjit.  Hmmm.  I for one would love to see kenjit debate the great minds behind all these very successful speaker designs.  That’d be a real hoot.

You can't be serious. 99% of high end speaker designs are NOT open baffle they are boxes. They are all on my side. I have already named many of them. B&W, KEF, FOCAL, DYNAUDIO, MAGICO, WILSON. 

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