Why are there so many wooden box speakers out there?


I understand that wood is cheap and a box is easier to make than a sphere but when the speaker companies charge tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars for their speakers, shouldnt consumers expect more than just a typical box? Are consumers being duped?

Back in the 70’s a speaker engineer found that a sphere was best for a speaker. A square box was the worst and a rectangular box was marginally better.

The speaker engineers have surely known about this research so why has it been ignored?

Cabasse is the only company doing spheres. Should wooden boxes be made illegal

kenjit

"Answers about what exactly?"

Perfect, another question. You just don’t get it do you?

For example you said: " I am not here to prove to you that spheres are better. That has already been done by other engineers many years ago."

Now, provide proof of that or is it just your flapping gums?

To be less flippant, your assertion that a sphere is somehow "perfect" is fundamentally in error. ALL designs, including spheres, are engineering tradeoffs. 

Look at it this way, even if the U.S. military wanted to spend a BILLION dollars developing a "good" speaker, they could most certainly do that. But in no way would it be "perfect".  Such an animal will never exist.   

Cost of machinery and material.

That is an excuse. If a speaker costs 100k how can you claim that cost of material or machinery is an issue? How dare you suggest that spending $100k is not enough to enable speakers to be spherical. How much would it cost then?  

WAF is probably another one as the market also dictates what will sell regardless of price or performance.

Well thats another outrageous thing. If audiophiles do not care about sound quality then who is meeting the needs of genuine audiophiles like myself? 

Likely most people do not have a great room where the difference can be heard or know how to or can properly set a system up correctly again because of the WAF.

Nonsense. If you can spend 50k on magicos and another 100k on amps and dacs then you better make sure you have a good room otherwise it makes no sense. 

Simple answer, speaker manufacturers know most people want a speaker that looks like a nice piece of furniture and not a sculpture.

Thats perfect. So you have finally admitted that we are being DUPED. Thankyou.

@kenjit

nonsense. You cant patent a shape. Why hasn’t anybody patented the rectangular box?

You may be able to patent an implementation of a shape. Apple irritated the always irritable interwebs by protecting their rectangle with rounded corners, I can’t recall how/if that ended.

The research shows it is the perfect shape. Speakers are there to reproduce what you play through them. They are not instruments. High end speaker companies know this.

I think Cabasse speakers are fabulous btw. I wouldn’t be surprised if certain elements of their implementation were patented, but haven’t checked. I agree spherical or semi-spherical shapes are wonderful and I’d like to see more of them.

Gallo made both entirely spherical speakers and used spherical housings in complex speakers, like their discontinued Reference models. I think he sold the company (not sure) but you could buy their Strada models recently (they being two midrange spheres and a curved tweeter).

There have been others that I can’t recall immediately.

We also have the egg-like Devialet.

And there are complex curvilinear shapes, B&W’s shell-inspired Nautilus, and Laurence Dickie’s later work as Vivid Audio.

And we have numerous simple or complex curved planes on numerous models. Previous generation Audio Physic had curved sides or backs (the current reference models are tilted rectangular prisms but don’t sound worse). Magico still do (and those giant Magicos are complex curves). Focal Utopia series generally don’t have any flat elements. Nor do certain Genelec series. KEF Muon. And so on.

B&W had one but we are not talking about subwoofers we are talking about regular speakers

Why not? Boxes may be the common/utilitarian/cheap box of choice, but variations exist as attempts to improve sonics and aesthetics. B&O make a complex polygon that approximates a sphere. High-end REL models are curved like grand pianos. Gallo made a cylindrical tube. Tune Audio make a lavish vertical horn. Genelecs SAM series are spiral sections. Avantgarde Audio make those fabulous-looking stacking spiral horns. And so on.

To be less flippant, your assertion that a sphere is somehow "perfect" is fundamentally in error. ALL designs, including spheres, are engineering tradeoffs.

Its not my assertion olson did the damn research back in the 1950. All shapes were compared and the sphere had the smoothest response. Nothing has changed since then so the result is still true.


Look at it this way, even if the U.S. military wanted to spend a BILLION dollars developing a "good" speaker, they could most certainly do that. But in no way would it be "perfect". Such an animal will never exist.

We are not talking about perfection. We are simply saying why are all speakers wooden boxes when the research has shown that they should be spherical?