Thiel Owners

@cascadesphil Thanks for the tips. The room is treated, walls and ceiling, as much as possible in the current domestic situation. If I wanted to really see how bad it was, I would haul in my Anthem preamp from the HT and run ARC, but there’s not much I can do about it other than obsess over the graphs.

@vair68robert I saw that awesome 1.6 deal come through - amazing they still haven’t sold. I’ve had tubed CD players and DACs over the years, nothing special. The Bryston BDA-3 is the best DAC I’ve ever had.

@thieliste I am currently using Bryston 4B3 but was using 7B2 monoblocks before and it was no better (actually worse). The low bass is very impactful and controlled, exactly how a Thiel should sound, but it’s the mid-bass that gives warmth which is sometimes completely missing.

@jafant Outriggers have been on since day 1 - in fact I’ve never heard the speakers on their regular feet. What happens when you remove them? You think bringing them down 1/2" would help them loosen up a bit?

@ronkent OK you’ve convinced me I need to try GAIA feet. I would need to order adapters that fit the Thiel threads though (it’s not one of the common thread sizes that are supplied). Also, if I wasn’t such a Bryston fanboy the BHK250 would probably be my next amp (and the matching preamp, etc) however I think they share a similar philosophy about lowering noise.

All - I can’t blame digital nasties. I have a big VPI turntable (with a top Benz Micro cart that cost more than my "stereophile Class A" DAC) and the characteristic of the speakers in my room isn’t changed when I play records.

Thanks for your input,

Stefan

jazzman7

Nice catch! I hope those speakers find the next good Home as well.

Happy Listening!

dr3

Which Tubed cd player(s) did you own?  In reference to CS 3.7 and Outriggers, I found no substantial advantages/disadvantages while auditioning. The same ear-brain impressions for CS 2.4 and CS2.7 Models. It is still a very cool invention and worth keeping.

Only with the CS 2.4SE did I find the Outriggers to sound beneficial. The matter has been discussed here in the past about this Loudspeaker needing the Coupling effect. Only a subtle Aural experience was appreciated for the better.

All of my auditions were conducted in Rooms with carpet. Perhaps my impressions and thoughts would be different with Hard-wood surfaces?

I hope that this is helpful.

Happy Listening!

I do enjoy the stability and safety that the outriggers provide.

I had a CAL Delta + Alpha DAC and Melos DVT long before I owned Thiels.  I currently have a Sonic Frontiers Processor 3 in my "all tube" basement system.  It's a great DAC but, like most SF gear, can't say it adds any of that mythical tube warmth.